wisconsingal wrote on May 9, 2008 8:49 PM:
" What am I MISSING here?? Is this NOT a story about a 2 year old getting her skull fractured by her mother??? Where did a story about kids and swimming and being neglected come into play? Please, somebody clarify. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 7:22 PM:
" wisconsingal, I wasn't comparing apples to oranges, I was pointing out after being attacked that a drowning because the child lived but was due to neglegence is okay to most of you because he lived. All I want is something done to the woman who hurt my grandson. I only stated my opinion and was attacked. I get tired of he is ok, I want the whole story out. It was removed because Nana3 and other's related slammed the family of the 7 y/o who was the VICTIM in the original article. I want the DA to know we haven't forgotten is all, thus my original comment. Nuff said. "
wisconsingal wrote on May 9, 2008 7:05 PM:
" Horselover; If YOU read back in one of your statements you questions WHY the mother of this physically abused little 2 year old girl was charged with anything because "the little girl survived"...I believe THAT is what you are being "jumped" about. That is an unbelievable statement as if to say there should be NO punishment for this mother because the daughter survived the brutal attack. This has NOTHING to do with the swimming situation with your grandson. Like SBR said, it's like comparing apples to oranges. "
conscience? wrote on May 9, 2008 6:36 PM:
" Horse,
I can see where you're coming from and I'd be angry too. I think it made it sound like you were comparing the two cases when you brought up what happened to your grandson in the first place. You also got angry and said "should have happened to her child". That was way out of line. No child deserves abuse. You also keep saying "abuse is abuse". It's not. But what happened in either case should not have happened. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 6:16 PM:
" Oh, my comment was directed at Nana3 as I believe she is the mother of the woman who neglected the children at the pool. She said many, many negative things along with other's about it not being a serious matter. I totally disagree. Next I know, people are picking and chosing words taken out of context...which had NOTHING to do with the original article. My reference was a "bad comment", just pointing out that child abuse is child abuse and I want justice for my grandson. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 6:09 PM:
" Since you all think I started this, read back, all I stated was my opinion and I got jumped. I do not compare this to my own situation. This is horrible, however; what this woman did do to my grandson is engraved in his memory, she left him. Sure it was childs play and everyone twists my words, the boys actually held his legs.....there's more but then she is innocent because she was on the other side of town (supposedly) when gas stations are right there.......supervising him, no wonder it happened. Accident??? I think neglect. "
SBR wrote on May 9, 2008 5:22 PM:
" Horselover: in your 12:22 comment, you asked why this mother is being punnished. Um, let's see....SHE SLAMMED HER 2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER'S HEAD INTO THE FLOOR 3 OR 4 TIMES. THIS RESULTED IN A SKULL FRACTURE.
Comparing this case to a case where a child was left in a pool is like comparing apples and oranges. Yes, it's wrong to leave children unattended in pools. It's NOT the same thing as TRYING to injure a child. Can you imagine how that little girl must feel? I'm sure the boy in the pool didn't question why his mom was hurting him. It wasn't the same thing. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 4:47 PM:
" I believe there is a difference between accident and neglect in this case. For all we know she was at the bar....does that make it better??? Convenient no camera's working anywhere. "
fishingpro wrote on May 9, 2008 4:47 PM:
" This lady is a mental nut job and should have her head bashed in to see what it feels like. The dude that got this girl pregnant should be beat as well just for being an idiot. It boils my blood when I hear things like this. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 3:00 PM:
" conscience? Thank you, you understand. I never said she should go to prison......but to not get anything is absurd, community service whatever, something. Ignorance is no excuse and she should have some consequences for her actions.
As far as this child's abuse in this ariticle.....throw away the key
"
conscience? wrote on May 9, 2008 2:24 PM:
" Horse,
I can assure you I am related to no one involved nor do I know either party. This fact gives me the ability to have an impartial view. That being said-I don't think the woman that inadequately supervised your grandson deserves jail time. She should have to do community service of some sort and maybe probation. It was an accident. "
KRKIKA wrote on May 9, 2008 2:07 PM:
" Nope, have no clue who you hate so much, so NO i'm not related. Sometimes we must think before we speak & unfortunately for you that's what happened. Peace & Prayer be with you. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 1:54 PM:
" This all started over my comment about the Monroe DA NOT doing his job is all.....the rest is just words. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 1:52 PM:
" I really don't care what any of you think. I'm just calling a spade a spade. Angry?? You bet, when I see people arrested for child abuse and what happened to my grandson NOT??? Concerned parents WANT to know who this woman is.....and also I know she would be wondering the same had the shoe been on the other foot. All you sticking up for her are related!! Again, abuse is abuse!!!! "
wisconsingal wrote on May 9, 2008 1:39 PM:
" Wonderer; I DO have more than one clue about life and wasn't talking to YOU. This story is about a helpless 2 year old having her small head beaten into a hard floor by her 22 year old "mother" and the other blogger said that she couldn't understand WHY in the world she was being punished because the girl SURVIVED. That statement is moronic and if you don't see that, you are just as moronic. "
KRKIKA wrote on May 9, 2008 1:35 PM:
" horse...DON'T put words in my mouth, I NEVER said he was "ok", I merely said HE'S ALIVE and with his family!! Now you're saying you have forgiven? Your sharp tongue surely doesn't sound like it. I also NEVER said you wished it on another child, YOU DID on your 9:11 post, 3rd sentance. Our justice system is in control of determining whether charges are necessary and Jury's are in control of the punishment, not us! You are a very bitter, angry woman, take your deffensive guard down and don't be so hateful. "
wonderer wrote on May 9, 2008 1:23 PM:
" Wisconsingal, you need to get a clue about life. Maybe you can't comprehend then. "
wonderer wrote on May 9, 2008 1:20 PM:
" Sorry folks, 2counts of reckless endangerment is inappropriate. It should be attemped negligent homicide and 5-10 years in prision for each count. The woman that abandoned the child at the pool deserves the 2 yrs in jail! Abandoning a child at a pool is no different then leaving one in a hot car, stupidity doesn't cover it, reckless endangerment yes. "
wisconsingal wrote on May 9, 2008 12:43 PM:
" Horselover, I DO read all of the comments, what is your point?? Your comments are still moronic. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 12:38 PM:
" wisconsingal read ALL the comments.......
"
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 12:36 PM:
" Re KRKIKA
forgive yes, but justice also needs to be served. I don't wish it on any child. So save your words. I'm only pointing out that abuse is abuse. You have no idea what this little guy went through and for you to say he is "ok" "
wisconsingal wrote on May 9, 2008 12:32 PM:
" To Horselover; are you SERIOUS when you wrote "this little girl is alive, so why is her mother being punished"????? Seriously?? You CANT be serious?? Throwing her off of a couch and slamming her head into the hard floor and NOT seeking medical treatment...and you are asking WHY she is being punished?? And you call everyone ELSE morons??? Wow, now I've heard everything. "
PicklesPlease wrote on May 9, 2008 12:30 PM:
" horselover, is that screename an ego booster for your manparts, an insinuation that you have an obsession with everything horse-- or does it have more of a "I like to ride them" innuendo? hm... "
conscience? wrote on May 9, 2008 12:29 PM:
" Horselover,
There is something truly wrong with you if you can't see the difference in severity of these cases. Don't get me wrong, I don't think what happened to your grandson was OK. But no one slammed his head into the ground and broke his scull on purpose. Your case is truly an accident. I can't believe for a second that she left in hopes that he would get hurt. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 12:22 PM:
" Let me clarify for the record, the children were 7 & 9. I see NO EXCUSE acceptable. Abandoning children is abuse. Stupidity is not. Had she simply gone to the bathroom and it happened OR she had her back turned for a minute YES, then it was an accident but to deliberately leave them to go clear across town to a gas station>??? I'm sorry, that is neglect and should be punishable just like any other child abuse. This is my grandson, I do love him and protect him. This little girl is alive also, so why is her mom being punished?? So abandoning children is okay, what a bunch of morons!! "
StarsandStripes wrote on May 9, 2008 11:23 AM:
" 4 years? There is something wrong with justice here. "
KRKIKA wrote on May 9, 2008 11:21 AM:
" horselover, intentionally slamming your child;s head on the floor deserves justice. Not to say an unattended child is ok, but WE ALL make mistakes & that's how we learn, through our mistakes...living for the rest of one's life knowing that ignorance almost caused a life, has to be unbearable & emotionally distracting, that alone is justice. It's very sad to see YOU intentionally wishing abuse on another innocent child? Take your child & hold him & love him even more than before, because life is a precious gift...you don't have to forget, but forgiveness will help you move on. "
conscience? wrote on May 9, 2008 11:00 AM:
" Horselover,
You can't compare improperly supervising a 9 year old to slamming a 2 years olds head into the floor and breaking her skull. They are not in the same ballpark.
I hope this poor baby is now with someone who will love her and treat her right. "
JMHA wrote on May 9, 2008 10:37 AM:
" I don't believe the answer to her problem(s) is/are four years in prison. There are some obvious psychological issues that are not going to be properly dealt with in prison. While I agree with JMHO, that is not going to happen in our lifetime. The voters/politicians/criminal justice system need to come up with better answers than prison terms. "
concerned mom wrote on May 9, 2008 10:32 AM:
" I agree 100% JMHO!!!
You said it for the rest of us....
If you don't want your child and can't handle your child give them up to someone who can't have kids or someone who wants them and will care for them and not harm them.
Wouldn't someone who really cared about there child give them up before ever hurting them????
Makes you think!!! "
JMHO wrote on May 9, 2008 10:06 AM:
" I often ask myself why people aren't forced to undergo IQ and psychological testing before being allowed to procreate. If they don't pass, they don't breed....would save the world a lot of heartache, in my opinion. "
SBR wrote on May 9, 2008 9:46 AM:
" Why do people do this to their children when so many people would give them a better home? It sounds to me like this woman never should've had children. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 9:11 AM:
" Well Nana3, the child has problems, obviously you are the mother of the woman, I'm sure you would seek justice for your grandchild too. Child abuse comes in many forms and I believe deliberately leaving small children is abuse. Should have happened to her child. Then to harrass the family over this. Well, this fat lady isn't done singing about this anyway, so again......I'm not looking for publicity but justice!!! "
whipthehorse wrote on May 9, 2008 9:01 AM:
" Part of her sentence should include mandatory sterilization. "
Teiresias wrote on May 9, 2008 8:58 AM:
" While I understand that everyone has the right to a vigorous defense, counsellor Schulenberg should have jsut kept his mouth shut. The trial is over. There was no need to give the public more ammunition against his client.
Yes, she is trash and she is worthless. She repeately bashed a defenseless infant's head on the floor. How else can she be described? "
nana3 wrote on May 9, 2008 8:32 AM:
" RE:horselover, why do you keep trying to get media attention, your child is ok be happy sometimes they can't be recusitated.
As for this story, thank God the children are in safe hands. It is good this woman realizes she can't have kids in her life. "
horselover wrote on May 9, 2008 7:39 AM:
" At least they did something. In Monroe county the DA can't make a disicion about a child that almost drown in a hotel swimming pool and needed to be revived. The adult in charge left them unattended, she admits that but is not charged with anything!! "
choochoo wrote on May 9, 2008 6:22 AM:
" Excuse me??? This "persons", and i use that term loosely, attorney doesn't think she is worthless? What is she then? I can't think of a better definition for her! "
2centsworth wrote on May 9, 2008 6:12 AM:
" and now she wants to know how her children are doing?? tell ya what... don't give her 4 years in prison, give me 4 minutes to beat her head on the floor!! "