The Real World wrote on May 16, 2008 9:41 PM:
" Hillbilly,
I realize that, but the real situation is that insurance and government are paying for the excess services. "
Hillbilly wrote on May 16, 2008 12:18 PM:
" Dear "Real World": Franciscan Skemp is a private business. And yes, someone does need to pay for the overhead with regard to health (or sick) care. They are called patients (or consumers - in the current lingo) And yes, the growing cost of health care is burdening everyone, both those with and those without insurance. We need to take health care out of the hands of the greedheads and make it more like a public utility with user oversight. The fastest growing sector of health care costs is insurance administrative costs which now range from 25-30% of total costs. Insurance companies need to me removed from the equation since they provide no tangible health services yet take a larger and larger piece of the pie. "
CJ wrote on May 16, 2008 11:57 AM:
" Real World this is why they can charge well over $100 for a very brief office visit.......pathetic the cost of health care and I was actually told by being healthy and not seeing a Dr. on a regular basis I'm considered a new patient after using the same clinic since I can remember. Crazy "
Darwin wrote on May 16, 2008 11:51 AM:
" Pig03, I understand the involvement of both hospitals with the operation of St. Clare. But walking in the door, seeing how much need there is in that tiny, cruddy building, and knowing the limited hours of operation... this is an organization that is severely underfunded. Then look back at how much was raised, in private donations, for the new Holmen clinic. If you have the means, donate. I just don't understand how you compare a beautiful new clinic with the modern technology with the St. Clare Health Mission.
Oh well - before too long no one will be able to afford premium healthcare anyway. Our insurance is so expensive that it's tough to carry it. "
JS wrote on May 16, 2008 9:11 AM:
" Actually the land is not off the tax base, since it is a clinic property taxes are still collected. "
pjg03 wrote on May 16, 2008 8:39 AM:
" Sorry Darwin....but I need to share the facts: Franciscan Skemp owns St. Clare Health Mission, and operates it jointly with Gundersen Lutheran. It is run by volunteers but the two hospitals together assure that there are sufficient resources for its continued operation. In addition, both Franciscan Skemp and Gundersen Lutheran provide in-patient care--including surgeries, chemotherapy, whatever treatment is needed-- for St. Clare Health Mission patients at no cost to the patient, or to any other patient. The services are donated and cost the hospitals, together, more than $1 million each year. "
Darwin wrote on May 16, 2008 8:11 AM:
" Maybe they're getting donation to build it (like the new Holmen clinic). Welcome to the only profit-making industry that gets CHARITABLE DONATIONS to increase business. What a crock. Meanwhile the St. Clare Health Mission struggles. People who run clinics for profit get donations, people who run clinics for the poor do not. Tax benefit must be greater if you donate to business? I wish I was smart enough to run my business like Franny Skemp - I'd be a bone fide captain of industry. "
MickeyMouse wrote on May 16, 2008 7:33 AM:
" Still trying to catch up to Gundersen Lutheran... "
GARVI wrote on May 16, 2008 7:23 AM:
" More land off the tax roll. "
The Real World wrote on May 16, 2008 6:39 AM:
" How about the medical community, stat being responsible and quit building excessive facilities. We don't need any more. Private business would not do this, because it makes no sense. Someone has to pay for these expensive buildings. "
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