LaCrosseJaycee wrote on May 23, 2008 7:16 PM:
" HonestAbe - Where are these donation cans for the fireworks you keep talking about? The Jaycees haven't used them for years. The Skyrockers don't solicit funds for the 4th, only New Year's Eve. Donations to either group are always appreciated, but your unfounded accusations are not. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 22, 2008 2:16 PM:
" LaCrosseJaycee, jagoff.
You sure want the credit don't ya, you must have one heck of a long arm to pat yourself on your back like that.
So, beer swilling in the park holds more value than the countrys independance? nice
Since you try to take all the credit, and demean the people that donate to the cans, take the cans away, and people, if you see one, keep your money, it's not appreciated. "
LaCrosseJaycee wrote on May 21, 2008 11:35 PM:
" HonestAbe likes to talk trash. He takes a few facts, a lot of conjecture and guesses, and reaches conclusions that fit his gloomy view of the world. The Jaycees have sponsored the 4th of July fireworks since 1975. Prior to the Bicentennial, the Skyrockers solicited funds for the 4th like they do for New Year's Eve. The Jaycees have been an integral part of Riverfest since its inception and raise funds for the fireworks by operating the beer tent. All are volunteers and HonestAbe has never been part of either group. The fireworks budget for Riverfest is a bit more than Onalaska. The Skrockers shoot the fireworks for both, with the bigger fireworks at Riverfest. Which show is "better"? That's a matter of taste. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 21, 2008 11:20 PM:
" Mollusk, that is not the ONLY source of funding, even if someone told you that to prove how important your volunteer service is.
A lot of it is donations, I see jars sitting here and there all year long.
For them to sell me to donate for 'the 4th', then use any of the 4th show to close riverfest, is just wrong and false advertising.
There will be plenty of room to choose from this year, I'm sure, I for one will save my trouble and forgo the hassle for nothing. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 21, 2008 11:05 PM:
" Mollusk, you're wrong. "
Mollusk wrote on May 21, 2008 6:16 PM:
" The LaCrosse Jaycees have always funded the 4th fireworks. Even before Riverfest. They pay for them by manning the beverage tent during Riverfest. Nothing was held back from the first show last year to provide a second show. They were two seperate events. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 21, 2008 1:04 PM:
" Katie, """I know the Skyrockers have said that over and over again in the last year"""
Why then have they had to attempt at backpeddling if this was a non-issue and false?
There was an article in the Trib that started this 'story' so, take it up with them. (the tribs search is pretty rough and I can't seem to find the article, but I know I read it ... may have been on the web only?)
The mere fact that more people than myself read it and questioned it, means I'm not making it up, neither are 'the others'. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 21, 2008 12:50 PM:
" Katie, lol, ok. That's why you had to post, huh?
I forgot little Katie knows all, sorry I didn't confir with you first.
The skyrockers do take donations, well, they've always taken mine anyway ... so I think it is you that is clueless.
How do you spell sponsered,,, can you school me on that too please? lol "
HonestAbe wrote on May 21, 2008 12:48 PM:
" Darwin, that may be one way they raise funds, but not the only. "
Katie wrote on May 21, 2008 9:42 AM:
" Honest Abe- You obviously don't know what you're talking about. The two shows last year were sponsered and paid for by two separate organization. The cost and/or products were NOT split between the two shows. I know the Skyrockers have said that over and over again in the last year- but apparently it has fallen on deaf ears. You want more fireworks? Make more donations. Holding back money certainly won't help any. You can donate at many area places, including the UPS store downtown and Quillin's. "
tax-me-more wrote on May 21, 2008 8:23 AM:
" This may limit some professional shows, but it shouldn't have any effect on the private parties that would use Victory anyway.
Why?
Private fireworks displays are ILLEGAL in EVERY municipality in our area, and NONE of them give out a permit.
I see any of those illegal Chinese products in my neighborhood; you can bet good old LEO will be already in my speed dial. "
Darwin wrote on May 21, 2008 6:59 AM:
" The Riverfest fireworks are paid for via a percentage of the money the La Crosse Jaycees earn by working the beer tent. This is a contractual obligation. Perhaps a sign reading, "Drink more beer, get better fireworks" could be installed at the fest grounds? For years now the Onalaska show has been better... because the donor's pockets are nearly bottomless. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 21, 2008 4:59 AM:
" Well, I think lack of donations after last years 4th may play a role in this too. I've always donated something to them, but after last years 4th show ... I was really put off by the lack of show.
Then come to find out, they held back some fireworks for the 4th show, to blow at the end of Riverfest .......... what?
I don't attend riverfest, that is something that organization should be paying for, not hampering the show I donate to. We went through a lot of trouble getting a decent spot, and then the show was short and unappealing. Don't blame this on 'the economy'. "