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Published - Friday, June 06, 2008

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Audience at local AARP town hall wants access, affordable health care


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There was plenty of blame to go around for the health care crisis at an AARP town hall meeting Thursday in La Crosse.

Fingers were pointed at government, health care providers, drug companies, insurance companies and even patients who don’t have healthy behaviors.
But everyone at the forum agreed that all Americans need better access and more affordable health care, including mental health parity.

State Sen. Kathleen Vinehout, D-Alma, vice-chairwoman of the health committee, said she advocates the comprehensive reform of the entire health care system like the proposed Healthy Wisconsin plan, which is similar to the state and federal employees’ insurance plan.

The plan creates large risk pools that lower costs and force health plans to compete, Vinehout said.

“But it’s very difficult moving from discussion of problems to discussion of solutions,” she said. “The problem is not coming up with a solution; it’s coming up with the political will to do it.”

The Rev. Curtis Miller of Sparta, Wis., a Democratic candidate for the 92nd Assembly seat, said health care providers, whose roots are based in faith, have moved away from their mission and sense of purpose in serving others.

Miller, also president of a faith-based group addressing health care, said people have to share the risk and burden when others get sick or injured and make sure they get affordable care.

As a chaplain, Miller said he said he saw a custodian who was hospitalized with heart problems who had to choose between staying in the hospital for treatment or losing his home because he could not afford the care.

“He chose to go home and protect his family,” Miller said. “It is a fundamentally immoral position to put people in this situation.”

Sandy Brekke, director of the free and volunteer-run St. Clare Health Mission in La Crosse, said 85 percent of the clinic patients are working hard but can’t afford health insurance, and they come for acute illnesses and injuries, not colds and sniffles.

“Health care is a luxury they cannot afford,” Brekke said.

Tom Kennedy, chief financial officer for J.F. Brennan Co, said he was concerned about access to quality care, transparency and the cost and burden to employers.

Kennedy said some of his young employees turn down health insurance because they would rather spend the premium cost on beer and cigarettes. He said employees must have a stake in their own health care, and higher deductibles help them have “skin in the game.”

Terry Rindfleisch can be reached at (608) 791-8227 or trindfleisch@lacrossetribune.com.
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rprp wrote on Jun 6, 2008 6:47 PM:

" AARP is a far left organization and want to sell insurance and Vinehout is a first class far left liberal. This is destroying Wisconsin. "

Johnny wrote on Jun 6, 2008 3:15 PM:

" As far as the Wisconsin working poor are concerned, they should check out BadgerCare Plus before they decide they can't get medical coverge. "

Johnny wrote on Jun 6, 2008 3:12 PM:

" Since we all demand the most up-to-date treatment from highly-trained individuals, I think some common sense would help to provide "affordable" healthcare. Suggestions include taking responsibility for our own health (attention you smokers and fatties!) and utilizing preventive care. Also, seeing a doctor when you first feel sick instead of waiting until you end up in the hospital (as a relative of mine recently did). As a society, we need to curb our litigious nature. Again, we need to accept more personal responsibility. "

antieverything wrote on Jun 6, 2008 3:04 PM:

" Affordable? Are you serious? Need a hip? Its yours,cancer? Cured on a higher percentage than ever before. My point is the costs of healthcare are not always because a hospital or group makes money but what they can do and what the research cost. And before you say not everyone cant get this kind of care, highly unlikely unless you are working poor and have opted out of healthcare by choice. This crisis is far from one. Want to blame the Bush admin? Guess again. There has never been larger funding for medicare and medicaid with wider coverage then before. I could go on forever. This is not a right,it better now ever get AFFORDABLE or I am certain we will all suffer the quality we have. Thank to Gunderson/Stfrancis/Mayo for all the wonderful care over the years. "

random annoying bozo wrote on Jun 6, 2008 2:52 PM:

" forget what is a 'right' or isn't, and all of the other gobbletygook that gets thrown around in the 'health care' debate(?). i just want to know what is 'affordable'? who decides if it's 'affordable' or not? to some only free is 'affordable', yet we all know nothing is free, especially when government is in the equation. it's way too frequent in todays 'news' that someone just tosses out a word or phrase, then someone else repeats it, and pretty soon the word or phrase becomes the 'story, with no further input. so someone please enlighten me, what is 'affordable' health care? "

The Real World wrote on Jun 6, 2008 2:27 PM:

" mullman71,

Great post! "

The Real World wrote on Jun 6, 2008 2:23 PM:

" PicklesPlease,

Your attitude will destroy what we have. please read my first post, you don't have to agree but it is a fact. If we were aboard a sinking ship and the life boat could hold 50 people without sinking. I would not allow more to get in. You would allow every one in sinking the life boat and losing the lives of everyone. That is exactly what you are proposing. It might be the feel good thing but it does not work. I know you can't comprehend my comments but I am writing it for the others who can. "

Mack wrote on Jun 6, 2008 1:00 PM:

" I wonder if CFO Tom Kennedy of Brennan Co. has the same 'skin in the game' as the blue collar workers and how well he takes care of his own health. "

Johnny wrote on Jun 6, 2008 12:40 PM:

" Healthcare is a "right," but health coverage should not be an entitlement (we have way too many of these now). I'm not affluent by any stretch of the imagination, but my family gets excellent healthcare and I also pay for my health insurance premiums, deductibles, copays, coinsurance, etc. I can't afford to buy a house or take a vacation, but I pay for my family's health insurance and medical bills. I know people who have chosen to go without health insurance in order to buy other things -- like a boat. They whine about the cost of healthcare when they have a medical crisis. We need to start taking personal responsibility for our health and our health insurance needs. "

Mack wrote on Jun 6, 2008 12:28 PM:

" Socialism in America is reserved for corporations, the rich, the roads and public schools. Healthcare has not been a priority, maybe that's why we have such an inactive, obsese population. "

PicklesPlease wrote on Jun 6, 2008 11:31 AM:

" Whether or not healthcare is deemed a "right" in any written law, common sense will tell you that it is a human right. We all have the right to proper care, and we also have a duty to contribute to the well being of our society when able. We do this by paying taxes and lending a hand to help others in need. Ask yourself not what society can do for me, but what can I do for society.

You will find that health care is a necessity, not just to be reserved for the affluent. Otherwise, you participate in a little something called oppression. And good human beings do not willingly opress others simply to fatten their pocketbooks. It's time for many of you to take a lesson in humanity. "

Johnny wrote on Jun 6, 2008 10:44 AM:

" With the exception of the sudden, unexpected loss of health insurance (i.e. loss of job), everyone in Wisconsin should be able to get some type of health insurance coverage. There's Medicare for the elderly and disabled. Wisconsin offers several programs, including BadgerCare Plus, that offers programs for uninsured children and low income families. I think many individuals in Wisconsin are uninsured because they don't want to pay anything for their healthcare. If you're not low income, you need to take steps to get insurance. There will never be FREE healthcare! "

mullman71 wrote on Jun 6, 2008 8:48 AM:

" Leave it to the Tribune to totally ignore any common sense solutions like get the government out of the health care business and stop lawyers from suing the doctors out of business. I also think Kathleen Vinehout better go back to business school if she thinks a huge government healthcare system will promote more competition. If Healthy Wisconsin happens, businesses will force employees into the government program. Insurance plans will no longer be relevant and they will leave the state at the same time our taxes are increased by billions of dollars. As a result, business after business will leave this state for more freedom elsewhere. Let me be frank: if you vote Democrat this election season then you are voting to destroy the Wisconsin economy. It really is that simple. "

jeremy wrote on Jun 6, 2008 8:42 AM:

" Mr. Curtis Miller:

We have to share the risk for when someone gets sick or injured?

What does that mean?

If it means we need shared responsibility, I can't afford to pay for someone else.

My taxes are through the roof, gas is through the roof, food is through the roof.

I can't afford anymore social programs. Get it yourself, or make the choices that man had to make. "

The Real World wrote on Jun 6, 2008 7:35 AM:

" For those who think health care is a right. We get our rights from the constitution in this country. Our Constitution has nothing about extorting money from the general public and using it for the health care of individuals. All of the bureaucrats and do gooders out there are going to destroy the greatest country in world history by taking us all down trying to provide for everyone. Socialism has failed every time it has every time been tried and it is a miserable demise. "


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