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Published - Tuesday, July 29, 2008

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Samantha Marcus: City to drinkers: Get out of the park


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It seems as though we’ve got some problem parks around these parts. Parks with a bad reputation.

I asked about Houska Park in the office Monday, and my colleagues perked up. A cops and courts reporter mentioned the number of times vagrants in the park are included in police reports.
A female reporter recounted an interaction with a man who called himself Billy Goat Gruff and asked if she wanted to “cross his bridge.”

She didn’t.

They confirmed what I heard park commissioners say at a meeting a week or two ago, but what, I, as a relative newcomer to La Crosse, haven’t witnessed firsthand.

City Director of Parks and Recreation Steve Carlyon said it’s a problem of people treating public parks like their neighborhood bar.

The solution he proposes: regulate drinking.

“It’s not a bar environment for people to sit all day long and drink,” Carlyon said. “We don’t want families with children to continue to be exposed to that.”

I may be picking on Houska Park, but it doesn’t stand alone. Carlyon said happy hour also starts early and lasts all day at Copeland Park — think splash park not lumberyard.

“That’s not what parks are for,” Carlyon said.

But the fact of the matter remains that — at least for now — it’s entirely legal.

The city’s code of ordinances specifically allows drinking alcoholic beverages in Carroll, Copeland, Myrick, Houska, Red Cloud and Pettibone parks, Erickson Field and Grandad Bluff.

The Parks Board now is considering prohibiting drinking in all parks, except with a special permit.

Pardon the cliche, but it looks like it’s last call.

But the intent isn’t to entirely ban alcohol in parks, Carlyon said. Anyone can get a permit for a softball game, picnic, get-together, wedding or reunion.

Odds and ends

- For all the council votes, nuances and anecdotes out of 400 La Crosse St. you’ve been aching for, look to my new City Hall blog at lacrossetribune.com. It’s been up and running since Thursday.

- The Wisconsin Way, a coalition of public and professional organizations, is hosting its second La Crosse forum from 6 to 8 p.m. today at the Onalaska OmniCenter, 255 Riders Club Road. In May the group asked for public input for improving the state’s tax system.

Samantha Marcus can be reached at (608) 791-8220 or smarcus@lacrossetribune.com.
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ryeguy wrote on Aug 8, 2008 7:59 AM:

" How about allowing beer or wine but not liquor or fortified beers and wines? I mean, how can you play softball without beer? "

wiseup wrote on Jul 30, 2008 11:51 PM:

" This has gone far enough! Just because of a few complaints, you are going to restrict MY RIGHTS as a legal responsible drinker to enjoy a legal beverage in a park I paid for? Any problem people can be carted off for a multitude of ordinances without taking away MY RIGHTS! Its time we stand up and tell the prohibitionists they have gone too far! "

Myturn wrote on Jul 29, 2008 9:30 PM:

" Maybe Ed from WIZM Forum had an idea. Possibly some of the Parks could move on without alcohol? "

oldglorydays wrote on Jul 29, 2008 4:53 PM:

" If we want to address the problem, we need to increase police presence in the parks and use the laws already on the books. Until then, I've stopped going to many of our parks with the youngest members of my family because they have been taken over by drunks and dopers. Add in the degenerates cruising for sex, and it is no longer a walk in the park! "

Myturn wrote on Jul 29, 2008 12:16 PM:

" Hey! Those nearby Northsiders can call their Councilman. Wait a minute, there is no Councilman for the 2nd District. A southside Councilman has decided unilaterally not to appoint one in the interim until April 2009. Oh what the hey, it's only the Northside. The beach/bath house is so dirty up here that the bums do not even use it. "

Im Still Jackson wrote on Jul 29, 2008 11:14 AM:

" ROFLMAO: LaCrosse now has a SKIDROW! Cant for the life of me understand why LOL. "

Moderate Republican wrote on Jul 29, 2008 10:56 AM:

" I drink on Grandad's bluff. Its call the Alpine. But if you want to drink at the lookout, a little man will stop you and ask these questions three. What is your name? What is your favorite color....... "

random annoying bozo wrote on Jul 29, 2008 9:18 AM:

" Myturn, Copeland is a very bad situation. the 'park bums', (and that is what some call themselves), start rolling out from under the overheads or the woodlots around them about 7am, then wait for kwik trip to open so they can get some 'Cammo'. i don't necessarily think the permitting process will do anything but move the 'park bums' to another area. but what else can be done? i think the police do a good job of thinning out the herd (outstanding warrants, etc), but as soon as they are out. it's back to Copeland they go. "

doctor9 wrote on Jul 29, 2008 8:59 AM:

" Did the Cops and Courts reporter also mention how the police make an extra effort to mention park arrests whenever there's a headline about the alcohol task force, even going so far as to specifically ask that certain stories get published. "

Myturn wrote on Jul 29, 2008 8:58 AM:

" I would totally agree with the Copeland Park problem. With my family riding by in our boat there was a couple that appeared to be 'street people'. On the bank the woman was giving the man oral sex. Not hidden, sun was out, middle of the weekend day, right smack on the beach. Meanwhile the rest of this pack sat very close apparently uninterested. Not an event or group with a set of rules I want my kids viewing. I called the cops and waited while I dispatched my family to Hardees for lunch. "

allcav wrote on Jul 29, 2008 7:39 AM:

" There ought to be a better way of dealing with the drunks in the parks than banning all drinking without a permit. I dislike drunks anywhere, especially if they're bothering others, but I like being able to have an impromptu family picnic with an adult beverage or two. What's a grilled brat without a beer? "

Krusty wrote on Jul 29, 2008 6:07 AM:

" By the way...How much does the city plan on charging for a "permit"? Is this going to result in another full time job down at city hall? Who at city hall has a friend or relative that is going to get this new job? "

Krusty wrote on Jul 29, 2008 5:51 AM:

" Why don't the police just arrest the wino's on a different charge, such as the "public intoxication" ordinace they came up with, instead of making the rest of us have to get (and pay for) a permit? This sounds like a cowardly act that affects the law abiding citizens more than the wino's. "


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