Anna Banana wrote on Aug 10, 2008 7:19 PM:
" People aren't excusing her actions, they are asking that posters respect the system, innocent before proven guilty. Some folks calling her a murderer have already ignored her right to a fair trial. I anguish for this little baby, but I will not be ther judge and jury. If any good can come from this I hope more young women will learn about the options they do have so that these types of things don't have to happen again. I pray for everyone involved in this case - inlcuding the judge. "
willie wrote on Aug 8, 2008 9:12 PM:
" What I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is how people can defend her actions and mitigate them as far as they do. This isn't even a case where she was drunk or high and rolled on the baby and suffocated like you hear about. There was nothing accidental about how she handled the pregnancy and birth or how she got rid of the corpse. There is definite malice aforethought. Innocent til proven guilty is one thing, downgrading her act to "oops" is a whole other thing entirely. "
mtdew101 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 8:04 PM:
" and the reason they had the garage set up into a living room is because her other roommate didn't believe in tv so it was a place that they could set up one and go out and watch it so obviously her other roommate besides adam wouldn't have been out there. She knew what she was doing "
mtdew101 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 8:02 PM:
" Everyone needs to calm down. Indy will be in jail within the month. She has to many bad habits like smoking, drinking, and partying that are going to put her right back in the slammer where she belongs. She has never been good at listening to rules and doing what she is told. If she doesn't flee she will do something wrong. "
Mack wrote on Aug 8, 2008 7:09 PM:
" nanigrrl7, thank you for being a voice of reason, it is very refreshing. The extreme, reactionary hate on this blog is depressing. "
nanigrrl7 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 6:58 PM:
" Twilite-I am not a friend of hers, I have never met her. I just happen to know that situations like this are all too common, and the intelligent thing to do is look at all of the factors involved. She did attempt to feed the infant and failed, this is very common in those attempting to breast feed for the first time. She never stated that she stopped feeding the infant to cause it to die, only that she understood that that would be the consequence if it never ate. Many mothers struggle initially to breast feed their infants. I don't see the evidence that she intentionally killed this child. Why did she stay with the child and attempt to care for it at all if she was intending for it to die? Look at the evidence. This is a terrible tragedy, but let's look at the facts. "
conscience? wrote on Aug 8, 2008 5:37 PM:
" Nanigirl-
How did the system fail her? Did the state stop doing those darn little monthly period checks to make sure she wasn't pregnant? The system can only fail if it's used in the first place. She failed her baby. "
just a thought... wrote on Aug 8, 2008 5:08 PM:
" I just looked this landlord up on the WI circuit court site. Man-o-man! The chances are very slim that this young lady(?) will ever be seen again around here. "
Twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 3:24 PM:
" It wouldn't have been 28 weeks. It would have been more like 30-34 weeks, since the complaint said she was 5 months along on June 11 or 13 or whatever. Of course the survival rate is better with medical intervention. That's why people have babies in hospitals. She never got any care - which was just another sign of intent. "An 18 year old 100 pound girl labored all day and delivered completely on her own with no assistance." way to make her out to be a saint. This was her own fault. Did the crack make her go into labor early? "
Twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 3:20 PM:
" And apparently she didn't "find the help she needed" because she never wanted that help in the first place. Was there supposed to be a psychic knocking on her door telling her not to kill her baby? "
Twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 3:18 PM:
" Yeah, thanks I read that. Still doesn't change the fact that she left the house (with people in it) to go to the garage (with no people in it, even if there was a couch) in case the baby cried. If it was such a "lived in" area, where were those people the next morning and afternoon when the baby killer was all alone with the dying baby? "
turbocharged wrote on Aug 8, 2008 3:06 PM:
" nanigrrl7 wrote "this was a scared young mother who did not know what to do and whose child passed on before she found the help she needed.
Are you freakin kidding? She hid the entire pregnancy, gave birth alone, took the baby to a garage/living room (doesn't matter either way) and then left it there to die. She then stuffed it in a cooler for how many months before deciding to put it out with the garbage. Then she just goes about her buisness like nothing happened, and never told anyone. Yeah....sounds like a scared young mother to me! NOT.
You sound like your a friend of her's. If so, Doesn't it make you even a little sick that you talked to her and she never acted like anything was wrong or that she had KILLED an innocent little child. "
pinky wrote on Aug 8, 2008 3:02 PM:
" nanigrrl-It's very apparent she was disassociated from her baby, that is proven by her actions. She was SO not connected that she didn't go to a hospital when she was in labor (knowing the baby was premature), not going to a 'safe place' to drop the baby off, not telling ANYONE she was pregnant in the first place. It's like she just ignored everything and wished it would all just *go away*. And it did, until she got caught. Scared, immature women need to understand it's NOT OK to do nothing. That's not an excuse. There are plenty of resources for them, GO GET THEM!! "
quay wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:48 PM:
" the system never failed her. she never told the system about it. she ignored the whole situation. does anyone no who the father is (was) maybe she was raped, maybe that started the whole downward sprial. "
nanigrrl7 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:48 PM:
" Pinky- Most mothers who intend to not raise their child (ie: place it for adoption) disassociate from that child during their pregnancy. If you do not understand the family dynamics you are only passing judgment unfairly. We have a law in this country that babies can be dropped off no questions asked within 72 hours of birth because it is so common for young girls to hide their pregnancies. I think that this was a scared young mother who did not know what to do and whose child passed on before she found the help she needed. "
nanigrrl7 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:42 PM:
" Twilite- did you not read the end of my comment? The garage had been converted into a living room. She essentially took the baby into a living room, not a garage. And 28 week baby's have that high of a survival rate with immediate medical intervention, which I am certain that you are aware of. An 18 year old 100 pound girl labored all day and delivered completely on her own with no assistance. I am willing to bet that she wasn't thinking very clearly. Most mothers who kill their children do just that, not staying with the child and calling adoption agencies. This is a case of the system failing this mother and her child. "
pinky wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:41 PM:
" So nanigrrl7-If you know she had friends/ family there for her but she just chose not to turn to them for help, that justifies my first thought upon hearing this sick story that she never intended to care for, love, raise, or otherwise, this baby. *Lucky* for her, the baby was premature and died quickly. "
twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:38 PM:
" nanigirl - did you read it? "She indicated that she gave birth sometime in the middle of the night and went out to the garage at approximately 2:00 in the morning with the baby" who's in the garage lounging at 2 am? if she wasn't worried about people hearing the baby, why didn't she stay in the house? I have worked with preemie babies a lot, and a baby at 7 or 7.5 months, like this one - has a survival rate of 94-98%. The baby died so quickly because it was delivered by a mother in a bathtub, didn't have her cord clamped, and wasn't taken care of. "
oopsy daisy wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:27 PM:
" You said it Michael.... she must have been desperate and ill... what help has she gotten... now thats reason enough to keep her locked up!! I sure pray she didn't get any stretch marks to remind her of this ordeal for the rest of her life. Wow some people sure are scarey,wear womens clothing and thump a bible. "
Jaxx wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:27 PM:
" She murdered her child... she let her own flesh and blood suffer and she is released from jail. La Crosse County voters, I hope you are really paying attention to what your elected officials have allowed to happen with this murderer. "
nanigrrl7 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:26 PM:
" The saddest part of this entire story is that all of the information that has come out has been completely biased and one sided. Ms. Book should face punishment for what she did, no doubt. However, did anyone read the entire complaint against her? This pregnancy was apparently about 7 months gestation. This was most likely a premature baby which is most likely why it passed on so quickly. Her friends and family were there for her, but she hid her pregnancy. And as for the "garage", it had been turned into a living room and was a common social area. What happened is terrible, but how many have looked beyond the biased reporting of the Tribune? "
twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:24 PM:
" And if she's so "ill" then how is she being punished? She lived almost a year with this, hiding it the whole time. If she was living with remorse, she wouldn't have made it a year. You're right, she's ill. For sure. But you seriously think she can "turn her life around?" Have you seen her myspace page? She's been messed up from day one. "
twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:22 PM:
" Thanks! Yeah, I wouldn't do well with these people at my house. I'm sure you'd enjoy them though...maybe a little too much.Could you point out where you said that she should be punished as well as rehabilitated? You - "Punishment only satisfies 'us'; the real objective ought to be to turn this hapless woman's life toward something better..." Better, right. "
twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:21 PM:
" Well then apparently, we're all sinners. Satan was there when this thing was killing her baby and Satan is here while we judge. Good think Michael Welch isn't God, or the judges would be the only ones going to hell - the murderers would get rehabilitated first. "
Michael Welch wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:19 PM:
" Send them anywhere but to yours -- I didn't say she oughtn't be punished (she IS punished); I said she ought to be helped too. I don't see why she shouldn't be just because it satisfies you to see her 'swing'... "
jarob79 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:19 PM:
" All hail Preacher Welch...what a joke. "
Michael Welch wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:17 PM:
" It's not even the BEST of the OT; it's not even Joseph forgiving his brothers or Abraham pleading for the Sodomites. It's the belly of the beast... "
twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:12 PM:
" Okay, so lets not punish anyone anymore - murderers, rapists, child predators, drunk drivers. Surely they're all just a little lost, in need of some aid. There's no reason for punishment. Can we send them to your house Michael? "
quay wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:09 PM:
" this is all old testament stuff Michael, Christ
is no where on this board. "
Michael Welch wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:06 PM:
" The baby is beyond any help and if you ARE a 'Christian' (and even if you're not) the baby is no longer suffering from anything. 'Let the dead bury the dead' means that the concern now ought be directed toward the living being who requires some aid and especially understanding for she MUST have been desperate and ill, in many ways, to put herself in this spot. Punishment only satisfies 'us'; the real objective ought to be to turn this hapless woman's life toward something better... "
Michael Welch wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:01 PM:
" I would just add that Christianity is NOT MEANT to be the 'easiest' religion though you wouldn't know it here; it seems that Jesus always demands the MOST DIFFICULT from his would be followers and the most difficult thing in this would be, it's clear to me, to have some compassion for Indra Book who is and will be 'suffering' -- have no doubt. This unrelenting viciousness directed toward her however enlightens nothing, helps no one and makes for nothing 'better' to come out of this tragedy... "
twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 1:59 PM:
" Hmm...well, I hope you're not a self proclaimed Christian. But, as I have asked you before (without response) - what would you suggest? That she be set free and worshipped? How is this murder different than some guy that murders his wife/gf? Oh, right, a baby is less of a person. "
Michael Welch wrote on Aug 8, 2008 1:54 PM:
" Everyone is OBVIOUSLY 'not Christian' -- even, maybe especially, those who claim to be. But I would hope you have all, once upon a time, heard of the words 'Blessed are those who are merciful for they shall obtain mercy!' Being merciful includes Ms Book for she is the one in need at the moment. It has just seemed that MOST folks who desire vengeance are indeed the 'Christians' who comment here so often. Am I to assume ALL below who call for Ms Book's blood are NOT self proclaimed 'Christians' OR per their rants for her destruction they are only ashamed to say? THAT would be at least ONE thing in their favor -- their shame... "
twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 1:44 PM:
" Michael & mack: Why do you assume everyone is Christian? Are you? lol Murder's not a Christianity issue, it's a moral/ethical/human rights issue.
Reddie: Just from what I've read in past articles - she took the baby out to the garage (away from people, so the baby wouldn't be heard, to hide, until the baby died). Which...seems like intent to me. "
Michael Welch wrote on Aug 8, 2008 1:24 PM:
" All the 'Christians' have been let out so to comment I see on how many stones they can throw. 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice' he said but what did he know -- and what do these things below know of 'mercy' eh... "
oopsy daisy wrote on Aug 8, 2008 1:16 PM:
" Hey Wingdam...she doesn't have to put a knife between her teeth and stalk babies,she can have her own and kill it. You just don't get it do you. "
Mack wrote on Aug 8, 2008 1:04 PM:
" How easily we go from unconditional love to the most extreme hate in nothing flat. "
wingdam wrote on Aug 8, 2008 12:36 PM:
" In our country bail exists for ONE purpose only, to insure appearence at trial!
What do you think she's going to do?
Put a knife between her teeth and stalk babies?
Bail, or lack thereof, is not to be used as advance punishment. "
reddie wrote on Aug 8, 2008 12:34 PM:
" I want to know how no one knew there was a baby in this place that she was living. If an infant is hungry, cold, neglected they cry and usually scream. How could no one hear that???
And how ignorant of him to post the property bond. She should be sitting in jail whilst she awaits trial. Hopefully someday Wisconsin will make the death penalty legal.....
Eye for an eye, someone should starve her to death. "
laxreader wrote on Aug 8, 2008 12:22 PM:
" $50,000 bond is to low for a murderer first of all. Secondly, how come when she had the baby or was pregnant or whatever, none of these people stepped up to the plate to help her or the child? She killed her child and all of a sudden you put $ up to get her out of jail. I can't believe that the judge in this case allowed a property bond for the first time. She was heartless in what she did and should be rotting in jail. "
oopsy daisy wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:47 AM:
" I hope she gets caught smoking pot,that will get her locked up and keep her there for sure!!! I wonder if she smelled it's little head or counted little pink fingers and toes or kissed the little velvet ears before she let it suffer and die??????? You are forever loved by many little baby. "
tlscao wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:47 AM:
" WRONG and stupid on La Crosse countys part...well now that this one is out of the way how long til this becomes common in our little community???...that's all i have to say... "
Willie wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:45 AM:
" Well said Jackson. "
Twilite wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:38 AM:
" The resources were only available to her when she was facing prison, not when she had a baby. Whatever, what nice supportive family/friends she must have. Hope she gets treated the way she should be treated in this town while she's out. That is, IF she sticks around. What does she have to lose? I'd probably run if I were her. She has no regard for others. "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:32 AM:
" Like I said before that 10 grand from mommy for bail and an apartment in Mr Browns building would had went along way for that baby.
Where was all this help then? Remember her friends all said she had no resources?
Those resources were obviously availabl she just chose not to use them. "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:28 AM:
" Money talks and bull$hit walks. "
choochoo wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:20 AM:
" Just how can this George K. Brown, justify what he just did? This girl knew what she was doing and she did it on purpose. No excuse. "
holmen wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:17 AM:
" Great. Scott Horne is turning into another Ramona. Let this killer stay behind bars.. it is what she deserves. "
cole wrote on Aug 8, 2008 10:53 AM:
" Whatever!! "
pinky wrote on Aug 8, 2008 10:26 AM:
" ok-it said my comment didn't go through with the first one... guess it did. "
pinky wrote on Aug 8, 2008 10:25 AM:
" How nice of him-risk many people's living quarters just to get a baby-murderer out of jail. I wonder if the people who live there know what he did? "
pinky wrote on Aug 8, 2008 10:24 AM:
" I'm sure glad I don't live in the apartment building that guy owns. To risk losing a place to live for many people because he wanted to get a baby-murderer out of jail-how nice of him. I wonder if the residents who live there know what he did? "
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