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Published - Monday, September 08, 2008

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Cordial council has productive retreat


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An organization not known for its efficiency, civility or shortage of hoops to jump through engaged in a lengthy self-assessment this weekend with collegiality rarely seen in regular meetings.

That organization, the La Crosse Common Council and city department heads, gathered Saturday at the La Crosse Center to catalogue strengths, weaknesses and priorities for the coming months and years.
Vows to follow through and meet again in a year aside, most senior staff and council members recognized the probability that in a year’s time things won’t change much.

“It’s nice to say we’re going to work on something, but you have to develop your policies and procedures, your mission first,” Mayor Mark Johnsrud said.

The all-day retreat did, however, provide a necessary shock to the organization, he said.

“I think the council has an action plan now,” Johnsrud said.

The city council was down a few members, including Lorraine Decker, Andrea Richmond, Tom Sweeney, Bruce Ranis and Bernie Maney.

But those present extended a refreshing level of courtesy and camaraderie, removed from the sometimes more acerbic council chambers.

“I think it’s one of the better, more civil exchanges the collective group has had in a long time,” council President Bill Harnden said after the meeting.

Under the direction of facilitator Fred Kusch, the city leaders began crafting values and mission statements to guide their behavior and work.

True to form, the group created three small committees to hammer them out and report back at the end of the month.

It was an important first step, the mayor noted.

“You have to build the house before you can buy furniture for the house,” he said.

Staff and council members proved adept at pointing out cracks in that foundation, including a cumbersome committee structure and slow processes.

Planning Director Larry Kirch suggested an executive summary with staff recommendations and fiscal notes be attached to each agenda item.

“Then you don’t have to explain legislation over and over for each committee,” Kirch said.

He also suggested striking the Committee of the Whole, which is the entire council acting as a large committee.

He favored a more effective and pared-down executive work session.

And it wouldn’t be a council session if council member Jim Bloedorn didn’t make a pitch for the city’s aging infrastructure, specifically the storm sewer system.

Those items, added Kusch, president of JFK Associates, are getting in the way of the city fulfilling its vision.

But he also asked the group “What do we have going for us?”

As a body, staff and council lauded a high level of services, excellent quality of life and good employees with a genuine concern for the community.

They listed opportunities in increasing the regional identity, rejuvenating neighborhoods and capitalizing on the resources in higher education and health care.
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Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:58 PM:

" Greenlite- Patience. Remember, She is the best man for the job of Mayor. Patience. It appears we have to run a binding referendum first against an City Ambulance business. The present Mayor Johnsrud appears deaf. "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:52 PM:

" Tell me this, How come Councilman Bloedorn gets laughed at by Johnsrud/Kirch and their minions because he fights for his constituents flooded basements every time we get a heavy rain. But those same people do not laugh when Councilman Becker fights for our taxpayer 30% matching the State of WI 70% to remove houses that have never gotten even wet? Now like I have stated before, I like and respect Councilman Becker. But I am real confused. It is almost like they want to embarrass him, and that is all it really is. How childish! It is very much like very own "Mean Girls' production starring Kader, Lenard, and Johnson. Produced by kirch and Johnsrud. "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 4:30 PM:

" Dick Swantz made more statements than anybody else in that room besides Kusch. Kusch was a Superintendent of Schools In Illinois. Where some teachers are paid near $200k, and Supers near $400k. Also Illinois a State that way back in 2004 even had a $35 billion dollar shortfall for promised retirement benefits for State employees. Welcome, enter our system, we want to hear your opinions. NOT!!! "

just the facts wrote on Sep 8, 2008 4:03 PM:

" Sorry, I meant card carrying Demos. But Domos is a pretty good fit , dont you think? Lets leave it. "

just the facts wrote on Sep 8, 2008 4:00 PM:

" Yes, Kusch has been hired by the LaCrosse school administrators to give several back to school rabble rousers, at great expense to the conservative taxpayers whom he loathes. How much was he paid by the city for this socialist brain washing? Richmond or Bloedorn need to publically ask and see that it is listed in the monthly expense report! Not that you cant trust the finance dept, they just dont tell you all of the truth, all of the time! "

just the facts wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:50 PM:

" Dear greenlite, Fred Kusch and Dick Swantz were both employed in the McHenry ILL school district. When Swantz was hired here he immeadiately brought Kusch here as his director of instruction. Supposedly ,by mutual agreement, Kusch left LAX schools for Winona because he simply could not control his budget. He wasnt there long. ?. These are two people who wanted to escape the chicago jungle because of the LAX lifestyle, and now run around trying to change the way we and our children live. Both are card carrying liberal domos. "

wizard wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:15 PM:

" Must have been just like the Bozo show! No- one from Onalaska there? Time LaCrosse and Onalaska snobs start working together, especially on the issue of public transportation. Must have been fun on the taxpayers dollar. Coctails, Filet Mignon and Lobster? Simple minds working together, how nice for leaders of a dying ghetto with a boarded up downtown except for bars and govt workers. "

WOOOOO!!! wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:01 PM:

" GO VIKINGS!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:49 PM:

" Correction! "The city council was down a few members, including".....Decker, Richmond, District Northside empty seat two, Farmer, Sweeney, Ranis, Maney, and Italiano who came at lunchtime. I will distribute a chart before the election. It will itemize the votes on most important issues taken at our City Council Chambers. I will gather the number of closed meetings, who ran those meetings, who attended and break them down in percentages. I left the retreat at lunchtime, they had already formed two groups to 'write' statements. They comprised of Lenard, Kader, Kirch, Sigman (Library employee and spouse of RDA member Mike), Johnsrud, and Johnson. I want you all to save these names and hold them up to compare any similarities with my soon to arrive 'flow chart'. Simple. I will gather the 'volunteers' who raised their hands for the third group. "

Greenlite wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:44 PM:

" of course Dick Swants and Fred Kusch are going tobe big spenders. Swants came out of education, and Kusch has been going around doing "feel good in-services" for educators for years. they made their living from higher taxes. Oh, What party ticket did they run on? Just a question. "

Greenlite wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:40 PM:

" It looks to me like there are several possible condidates for Mayor and/or city Council. It also looks to me as though there are a number of supporters out there who would help run the campaigns. Are they willing to step up to the plate? "

oldglorydays wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:37 PM:

" Too bad we don;t have a moderator on these forums. Nestor would be ruled out of order for almost every post! "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:34 PM:

" Well our 'Retreat Moderator' covered scenarios like that Saturday, "Gavel them out of order!" But in addition there was lopsided time once again given to the pro side of this issue once more, wasn't there? At the retreat it seemed Kusch was pushed of his order of business for a time, on the lines of Robert's Rules and running a meeting. By unquestionably hungry, almost rabid shown desires by Councilman attending. I have offered this week to 'pay' for a short professionally prepared PowerPoint program on Robert's Rules. Refreshments/donuts included. For the old members and new, for those present at future meeting but most importantly for those not present rights. "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:28 PM:

" Not let's cover recent fairness, or equality. Our City Leaders attempt to enter the Ambulance business. First there was a public hearing at UWL, where pro speakers were allowed to give seemingly unlimited time to show lenghty PowerPoint programs. Contained in those large stage lit numbers numbers that the Chief and his pals threw together. Giving two minutes for a statement or rebuttal. Thankfully the Mayor soon found out that the majority of our citizens were not in favor of a City Ambulance entrance. Then we have the J&A Meeting last week. Where I believe Chairman Becker was intimidated rather than favoring four out of town Fireman spokesman. Who rambled on for far longer than normally given, or given to others present. I might at times of topic as well. "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:18 PM:

" I asked to be on a future Docket at the Public Works Board. A Board full with City "executives"? Contractually responsible for gathering/filing many documents/info for the Riverside II project. They refused to palce me on a docket for future PWB business. I had read the contract, checked the City Clerk and found mandated requirements non-existent. 'Moderator' Kusch covered this in his retreat Saturday, whether planned or not I do not know. He stated that if someone wanted to ramble on about something not on the agenda, or order of business gavel them out of order, I agreed. Although those people had a right to call and have their topic placed on an order of business at a future meting. I told him what had happened with my request, he did not think that propoer or right! "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:05 PM:

" Bloedorn was also one of the Councilman who protested vehemently against fast tracking this project in two days, and then immediately be voted on by Council. While it seems no Councilman had seen a set of plans or contract. A project that was ramrodded through for impending LHI employee growth needs. In addition a project we were told by our own Mayor that the first floor was a Meeting Room when it was clearly marked Banquet Room, and next to a building with 700 LHI employees. None of which came to fruition or was true? There are taxpayers that would like things to slow down, rather than speed up, especially after follies/shams like these. "

Myturn wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:04 PM:

" if council member Jim Bloedorn didnt make a pitch. This subliminal attack on Jim Bloedorn is the most smarmy part of this article. It is mean, ignorant, shortsighted, and displays amnesia (real or selective). Add to that statement the Retreat Moderator Fred Kuschs attempt to prod quicker meetings with statement like Lets get on with it, and bang that gavel. What some apparently forget is recent history. Bloedorn, along with another Councilman were asked to leave a Redevelopment Board Meeting concerning Riverside Center II? After they had agreed to the Mayors recent enacted secret developer meetings ordinance. While one favored Councilman remained in the meeting. "

LAX wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:41 AM:

" Here we go...retreats, facilitators and mission statements. Sounds like the coroprate BS has invaded city government. And now they're going to waste another month to "hammer out the details." What a bunch of crap. How about "Do what's right! Be smart, be honest and be frugal with taxpayer money." That's all you need for an f___ing "mission statement." And these people are getting paid for this hogwash? I object and so should every La Crosse taxpayer! Call the mayor, Harnden and your council person and give 'em an earful! "

just the facts wrote on Sep 8, 2008 7:11 AM:

" The new suggested executive committee would be similar to the county, and right up kirches alley. Did you know that the countys exec committee can actually approve resolutions without going to the full board? Did you know that all suggested resolutions by your county representative must be approved by unelected administrator? These people are controlling what comes before our board members! "

just the facts wrote on Sep 8, 2008 7:01 AM:

" What a crock of bull! Fred Kusch is not a friend of the taxpayer.He is a lifelong colleague of big spender Dick Swantz. Larry Kirch is wannabe city administrator and an obnoioux bully. Kirch now suggests a summary of agenda items be provided with fiscal affects, be provided,prior to committee meetings. We did use this tool prior to Kirch and Medingers ascention to the throne.It was kirch himself who prepared the document and promoted its demise. Be watching the council for the behavior policies and mission statements. What a hoot! "

frog wrote on Sep 8, 2008 6:41 AM:

" Hey Sam the trib must have their arms around you or Harnden wrote this. I wouldnt trust the King and his court for one second. I also wonder if the mayor called his father in law to build the house because he isnt smart enough to put together 3 pieces of wood for a bird house. Czar Larry also has something up his sleeve just you watch and see!!! Has anybody been counting down the days yet? (Johnsrud the end of an ERROR) (lol) "

Big Spender wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:18 AM:

" This looks like trouble: impoverished LaX citizens, hang on to your wallets! "


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