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LaCrosseTaxPayer

Go out and get drunk. Party your brains out and be stupid. Hopefully the ones you kill because of your ignorance and selfishness is a loved one or a relative and not someone at the grocery store that you don’t know, so you can live with that the rest of your life, if you live,. STUPID CAN NOT BE FIXED!!!!

Dmoney2

You are overestimating the immediate and local danger. You realize the situation in NYC does not directly apply to La Crosse right? A tiny fraction of a percent have been infected here, zero deaths. That will probably change but still the odds of contracting and dying from it here are extraordinarily low.

RNeibuhr

What magic does La Crosse have that New York did not? We're early in the course of the local outbreak, not any better or worse. It can and will get worse here and people will die. We could be spending our time transforming our local economy and health practices to slow transmission but instead we're going to be caught in an endless cycle of spikes and shutdown businesses.

oldhomey

Exactly, R. DMoney subscribes to magical thinking that the people who populate the Coulee Region somehow have significantly different biometrics than the people who populate New York. I would hope that you are wrong that people will die here, but we simply don't have much control over that, and significantly less control if people ignore the protocols for flattening the curve. I wonder why D has never spoken up about his feelings that business should be given a waiver from accepting liability if any of their employees a stricken with the virus in the employer's place of business. Why did Trump make people attending his Tulsa rally insist that they sign such a waiver? Did D agree with that? Was he one of the 300,000 Trump idolators who applied for tickets to that rally?

random annoying bozo

lacrosse hasn't put Wuhan patients into nursing homes like ny did!!!

Dmoney2

Numbers game. Far fewer people. Set up ideally with medical care access. Your proposed solutions are illegal.

Dmoney2

Lawsuits against businesses by workers for Covid-19 are futile. States are the ones practically forcing businesses to reopen. They force people to work or lose unemployment. States would be as liable as businesses. As they should be. There's simply no hiding or running from this thing.

oldhomey

Yes, New York nursing homes put want ads into newspapers and in online sites seeking sick people from Wuhan, China, to install in the state's nursing homes. Everybody knows that. At least every bozo that comes along seems to think that is how this happened.

oldhomey

D tells us "there is no hiding or running from this thing", but he opposes the shutdown that flattened the curve all over the country, and he proposes getting everybody back to work to save the economy, even as the virus locally now is increasing at a true, exponential rate. Doubled in the last six days. So what is going to save lives, giving the virus free rein in the population?

Styx 'n' Stones

Walgreens West Avenue should be on the list of places that infected persons have been at, on June 16th. There were two cases reported at that store, per Walgreens management today.

takka

I wonder what Mike Brown from the tavern league has to say now?? Close the bars before this spins out of control.

RNeibuhr

Yep. The choice was never between open or closed. It was close early and prevent cases or close later after spreading hundreds of cases. It was never government vs. business. It’s always been virus vs. business. And we let the virus win that fight. If I owned a restaurant, I’d be spending my energy figuring out how to market and sell curbside rather than wiping tables and doorknobs as though that was going to make the place safe. We passed on our opportunity for safe. All we have left is trying to limit the death and economic damage.

Dmoney2

The "opportunity for safe" you mention was never a real option. That's because it's unconstitutional and therefore illegal. The state can't close a business indefinitely, thereby destroying it. The state can't indefinitely force citizens to stay home or restrict free movement. We were sold the "flatten the curve" lie, but once we flattened that curve--the lockdown was over for good.

RNeibuhr

I never suggested an indefinite shutdown of business. Flattening the curve requires continuous action. You don't "flatten" it once and it never comes back. Which means exactly what we're seeing now. Government mandate or no government, business are going to keep shutting down as cases spike. What we need to do is work collectively to keep cases from spiking so businesses can stay open. That means universal masking, asymptomatic and symptomatic testing, and limiting large groups. It also means agreeing on a new normal where wearing masks and staying home as much as practical are universal, not politicized for the benefit of a failed President who needs fake outrage to win votes.

oldhomey

D, what do you think about waivers that protect owners of businesses from being sued by employees who are ordered back to work and then subsequently contract Covid-19 in that place of business? You have not spoken about that yet, and as an employer, it would be interesting to know how you stand on that. I have my own opinion, one that probably would shock you, but I won't offer it until I hear yours.

Dmoney2

The supreme court ruled many of those actions unconstitutional. Can't arbitrarily restrict movement and freedom. That's not me saying that it's the law of the land.

Dmoney2

Any employee of mine can go nuts. I hope they have a lot of money, patience and luck. Because a ruling in their favor would set a precedent that would be IMPOSSIBLE to sustain and therefore won't be set. The government knows they are guilty party number 1 for forced reopening and they know it.

oldhomey

D, would you educate me, please? Tell me about the Supreme Court rulings that have forbid the nationwide Covid-19 shutdown? I guess I missed those rulings. Also, I have missed the government directives that have ordered people to go back to work. I didn't see that.

As for giving your employees permission to go nuts, I seem to recall that you in the past have registered your scorn for many of your employees as being the sort of people you would not want to rub shoulders with on a social level. Was that due to their mental faculties?

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