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A sexist banner hung near the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse campus during move-in has upset a number of people in the community after social media drew attention to the incident.

A group of UW-L students and their friends hung a banner off their apartment balcony on North 15th Street Friday afternoon that offered a lewd sexual act for those with a valid freshman ID. By Sunday, the banner had gone viral on social media after UW-L student Demi Dahl shared Instagram photos taken by the students who hung the banner.

“An unfortunate example of promoting rape culture on the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse Campus,” Dahl’s Facebook post read. “You may think this was a harmless joke but the reality is that the more we see posts like this online, the more rape culture is normalized in our society.”

By Tuesday morning, the post had been shared more than 1,650 times and had received more than 75 comments. Most congratulated Dahl for her post and drawing attention to sexism on the UW-L campus, while a few others defended the actions of the male students as a harmless and immature joke.

“Keep speaking out Demi,” one person posted. “Only way to raise awareness and make change.”

When asked to comment on her post and the incident, Dahl referred reporters to UW-L administration.

Ingrid Peterson, the violence prevention coordinator at UW-L, said the issue of sexual violence and harassment is a big deal for many students, especially during their first few weeks on campus.

Between one-in-five and one-in-four college females will be the victim of sexual assault during their academic career, she said, with that number one-in-10 for male students. While the sign didn’t threaten physical violence, it did objectify women’s bodies, treating them like sexual objects instead of human beings, which contributes to a culture where women do not feel safe on campus.

“We want UW-L to be a home for all students,” she said. “These acts disrupt that for people. They’re insulting and off-putting and can make people feel fearful.”

As campuses do more to combat sexism and sexual assault, more attention has been drawn to these incidents, especially as they can be easily documented on social media. According to USA Today, the Sigma Nu chapter at Old Dominion University was suspended in 2015 after hanging banners that read “Freshman daughter drop off.” That same year, Ohio State was in the news for similar offensive banners telling parents where to drop off their daughters.

UW-L vice chancellor for student life Paula Knudson said she learned about the incident on Saturday after a number of students reported the banner and its negative impact on the community. She said she has identified the students and reached out to them to have a conversation about the incident and how inappropriate it was.

One of the students who reported the banner was UW-L senior Grace Mortenson, who said she was verbally accosted by the male students on the balcony when she came back to take pictures of the banner. She said she was taken aback when she saw it, and immediately felt uncomfortable and fearful of the impact it would have on others.

“I am disappointed that anyone thought that it was OK or funny,” she said. “This wasn’t just a joke in passing. It was premeditated.”

Bubba Davis, a sophomore at UW-L and one of the residents in the apartment where the banner was hung, said he and his friends came up with the idea after seeing a similar post on a social media site dedicated to fraternity life. He said hanging the banner was obviously a vulgar joke, but the banner only hung during the evening on Friday after move-in hours and he and his friends were sorry that people were hurt by it.

He said people have responded online by threatening him and his friends with violence or calling them rapists and part of rape culture. While immature, he said the sign didn’t threaten force or violence against anyone.

“To call us rapists is insulting,” he said. “I just thought it would get attention for one day and cause a couple of laughs.”

Many of the female students walking to and from classes Tuesday morning near the apartment had heard about or seen the banner. Many called it offensive, in poor taste or an immature joke that shouldn’t have been done. Others agreed it was in poor taste, but with the backlash online, hoped the students had learned their lesson.

Other students said they were shocked to see something like this in La Crosse, and that the banner was rude and inappropriate no matter what. One student said these comments shouldn’t be taken lightly, especially as colleges focus more and more on the issue of sexual violence.

Elizabeth Gogolin, a junior at UW-L, said the banner was definitely offensive, and couldn’t see why people would think it was just a harmless joke. A lot of people deal with trauma due to sexual violence, she said, and it is embarrassing that UW-L is added to the list of universities that have had a sexist move-in banner like this go viral.

“I was kind of taken aback,” she said. “I’ve seen the banner a lot on social media. I didn’t expect to see something like this here.”

“I was kind of taken aback. ... I didn’t expect to see something like this here.” Elizabeth Gogolin, junior at UW-L

Between one-in-five and one-in-four women in college will be the victim of sexual assault during her academic career.

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Nathan Hansen has been the Education Reporter for the Tribune since 2014. Prior to that, he covered education, agriculture and business topics for the Winona Daily News. He is always on the lookout for news tips and can be contacted at 608-791-8234.

(104) comments

LeopoldStotch

You fools really need to learn what freedom of speech really means. It does not protect the right to create and distribute obscene materials.
http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does

Redwall

The Fibune doesn't miss any opportunity to chip away at the moral fabric. What fools they be.

Redwall

What's more rude, disgusting, offensive, and vulgar than these dopey 20 year old college guys with raging hormones?

How about mature people that hold themselves out as community leaders entrusted with running a community newspaper printing these photos for four days straight.

Thank you for teaching our children by example how to be rude, disgusting, offensive, and vulgar with a remarkable display of poor judgement...for profit.

hrpufnstuf

David Duke, Richard Nixon, Catholic Priests, and most pedophiles are Republicans moral leaders.

dopey

Carlos Danger, Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby, are all the moral leaders of the democrat party.

dnhillskier1

Geeze stop crying about a sign and get a life. It's freedom of speech. Yeah it might be a little distasteful but nothing about that sign promotes "rape".

dnhillskier1

Nothing about this banner promotes "rape". Look up the signs that the West Virginia University Sorority hung up. Are they promoting rape too? Or not because there girls. Equality goes both ways. Yet nobody is making a big deal over those signs. People nowadays are just way too sensitive. No crime was committed here. Signs are a form of free speech. Which is one of the freedoms our military fights for. If you want to criticize this, you're basically saying you don't support our military. Yeah i went there.

Jokes in LaCrosse

What a crock . Cream pies now mean " your going to get raped at college?" Stupid maybe but these guys cannot be held accountable for how YOU interpet what the sign says... Freedom of speech... Dont have to like it but it is just that. I am more upset about the kid who was convicted of sexual assault on campus and served 3 months...the sign didnt imply anything.

Mr Peroni

Its tasteless, its kinda funny. But I would hold off on getting the pitch forks. The snowflake generation offends too easily.

Buggs Raplin

The mainstream media is reporting this is Donald Trump's fault.

awol2009

These kids better buckle-up for Oktoberfest, I mean La Crosse drunkfest. That's when campus Animal House stuff gets real. Paula better hand out free condoms and morning after pills to guide them......

Pettyfogger

OMG, a chance for the sanctity of victimization....stop the presses! Oh, the warm fuzzy feeling from being swept up in the embrace of others who wait, salivating at the thought of being able to froth up into righteous indignation and sisterhood against...fill in the blank.
Can we even imagine any of these people in a situation like our ancestors found themselves over the ages-and from which they survived and thrived??? It is seriously past time for these poor little things and, more importantly the clutch of enablers who foster the thought of victimization behind every act or omission. Perhaps Paula and those of her ilk should be sent to some sort of basic training to help toughen up students for real life, not the bumper pad cloister UW-L is joining the academic world in spinning. Young adults at UW-L unite; cowboy up, shrug on those big boy and girl knickers or plan on the education of the real world absolutely flatten you over after you graduate.

awol2009

Can the Tribune get any more mileage out of these immature college youth that someone snapped a dumb phone photo of with? I'm sure far worse things have happened.....??

tower

Apparently Climaxhoax didn't read, or understand(?), Ronnie's post. No surprise there. He is a conservative after all.

Climatehoax

Apparently YOU don't understand my post. This sing thing is WAY overblown. There are so many more important things to get your undies in a bundle about. They're mindless college kids. They're a good reason we shouldn't provide college for them paid for by someone else.(you liberals erroneously call it 'free')

Climatehoax

Was there outrage and name calling when Bill Clinton got the BJ in the White House? He wasn't punished. Doesn't that make this sign rather benign? Good old Bill lowered the bar of risqué behavior. This sign is child's play compared to what he did, stop with the fake outrage, unless your going to do it when babies, oops, sorry, I meant growth, are chopped up and sucked out of the womb, or when a woman gets her brains blown out by an illegal alien felon that a sanctuary city released on the innocent populace.

Pettyfogger

This is a prime example of how the fluffy Left that infests our campuses can, on a whim or less decide what is farse, a sexist threat or a word or phrase that they can deem inappropriate by fiat only to use something that would be generally inappropriate to confront if the it serves their narrow purpose; pity the soul that call foul or takes their little act out of it's supposed context.
Two weeks ago at least a thousand large rubber male sexual appendages were being waved by mostly female students at the University of Texas who were shouting "***** NOT GLOCKS" to demonstrate against a recent change in the law that now allows concealed carry of guns on campus. By any stretch of the imagination, whipping a foot long phallus around must set precedent for speech at that campus except it won't, as the rules will change if the speech does not conform to the minute-to-minute rationale of the campus administration, ever pining to be edgy, progressive and all things not generally acceptable. I think the boys on the deck should have manufactured a gargantuan 'willie' and hung it (pun intended) while offering dialogue and a promise for a march of like minded souls, perhaps a candlelight vigil and personal gel exchange for the greater health of the community. What the guys on the deck have to learn is that outright sexuality is not allowed in a free-thinking, exchange of ideas like a college campus is designed to be. A condom hand-out, cards with a 24/7 staffed phone number for females who can't stand another minute with a sexless blob of protoplasm who can't decide if he/it should sort his socks by color or organize his Pokemon card collection.

RonnieS

Ok, first of all I'm guessing most of you complaining had to google "cream pie". As far as it being vulgar, if you've had a baby then you've pretty much had a "cream pie". Moving along....they're kids, its a joke, get over it. Do guys pitch a fit when a bachelorette party hops off the party bus with straws, necklaces and suckers all depicting male genitals? The joke was meant to get a rise out of people and you all helped spread the joke by blowing it out of proportion. So everyone just settle down and find something worth worrying about. Yes, rape is a dead serious matter, but this has nothing to do with that. And if you turned this into your chance to comment on democrats and republicans you should be banned from commenting on non-political stories forever.

warmwxrulez

I'm glad i grew up before cellphones, facebook and 24/7 news cycle.

Mack

Connecting this sign to rape diminishes rape.

Monteee

I wouldn't say that it diminishes rape, but it certainly adds to the misinformation and confusion about rape.

Asking for sex, even when you're doing it in a rude and vulgar manner, is not in any way related to sexual assault. Forcing yourself on someone and taking the sex without consent is sexual assault. Unfortunately, some people are really uninformed and confused about this point.

dopey

Absolutely. Hard to imagine that this even made the news.

Monteee

The sign was not in any way a promotion of sexual assault. It was a childish and vulgar request for sex.......voluntary sex.

The best solution is to ignore it. Don't give those childish and vulgar boys the attention they want.

Mo' Money Scott Walker

The outrage over this is ludicrous and overblown. What next? Tickets for those offering beer in exchange for flashing... maybe jail time for those proposing "you show me yours, I'll show you mine"?

And where did all the rape culture accusations come from? How does an individual look at that sign, and say yep there's a bunch of rapers.... how ridiculous! Is this immature behaviour? Sure. Are they threatening anyone with it? Absolutely not!

Good thing, they weren't flying a confederate flag or they would've really been in trouble.......

random annoying bozo

which is worse?

a sign hung by some college kids?

or the tribune using the mock controversy to pander for eyeballs to it's 'news'paper and website?

2Hoots

It may certainly be rude, disgusting, offensive, and vulgar. However, as it is not promoting illegal activity or otherwise banned it is protected by the 1st Amendment. Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant. It is still protected in the same way that Colin Kaepernick can express his opinions. Personally, I think they are lacking in enough maturity to attend college. Even flying or displaying a rebel flag is protected by the 1st Amendment - unless you try it at UW-L.

CLS

Its not even really sexist when you look at it. . . if it said FOR FEMALE FRESHMEN ONLY then maybe you could say that . . . At least they weren't exclusive??

dopey

Maybe the people who hung the sign self identify as lesbians?

Deadwood subscriber

Just curious if the defenders of the young men who made this sign have daughters. Are you seriously okay with your daughter associating with their ilk?

dopey

Just as long as they are not democrats. Nobody including the people (we cannot be sure that they self identify as males) who put this out actually took this as a serious attempt for sex. This is a joke.

Redwall

Remember, these kids, and probably their dopey parents, grew up in the age of Bill Clinton abusing interns in the Oval Office.

There is nothing sexist about this, it is just low class and disgusting behavior.

Same can be said of the Tribune for printing the pictures in a community newspaper. Pathetic, where the he77 are the editors? Being stupid at 18 isn't quite as bad as being intellectually impaired as an adult charged with the responsibility of running a business.

Pathetic and sad, all around.

logical thinker

Ummmm....so Clinton was president until 2000. These kids are 20 years old tops, which means they were 3 or 4 years old when Clinton left office. I mean, I SUPPOSE Clinton could have influenced them, but more than likely, they just wanted attention, saw this somewhere else, and are absolutely flabbergasted that there was such a ruckus. I mean, one of them quoted in the article was insulted to be thought of as a rapist, poor guy. He is clearly the victim here. Fragile man child. Just wanted to shoot his load into a freshman. Where is the harm?

Deadwood subscriber

"...Bill Clinton abusing interns in the Oval Office. "

Ms Lewinsky was a consenting adult. President Clinton lied to the American people about his private sexual life, but he didn't abuse anyone in the Oval Office.

Typical right-wing lies.

dopey

Deadbrain... it was still sexual harassment. Think of the other poor interns who didn't get the same opportunities as Monica because they weren't willing to perform...

lutefisk

stay on topic people
..how often can we talk about cream pie on the trib website?

random annoying bozo

I went into a bakery, and I am so offended......there was a banana crème pie, I can only imagine it was intended to be a lewd reference to things banana shaped, and there were vanilla crème pies, and also chocolate crème pies, I found them very ethnically divisive and prejudiced....and there was even boston crème pies, I don't even know what those northeasterners deviants are up to.....and I won't even get into the crème puff thing, with crème shoved into a suggestively sized void.

so yes, bakeries greatly offend me.

dopey

There is no reason that in 2016 things as offensive as banana creme pies should exist. As a society, I think we have evolved past that.

Only1Green

Hey, leave the bakeries alone, they are an intrical part of my, I mean our lives.

awol2009

Immature college students. Hope their parents are proud...... Doesn't suggest rape but just vulgar young male behaviour. Everyone in a tizzy over rape suggestions, just calm down. Move along now, people - just move along..... Nothing here but overly active testosterone our lack of social morals promotes.

tower

Go to the Trib on FB. It is in the comment section, ytyk.

you think you know

My point exactly. A Facebook commentor posted something, not the Tribune. Why the difference based on the sex of those involved?

tower

Wow maybe, you sure got me there. However, it doesn't surprise me that a big conservative like you would think I am more a subject than a bunch of self absorbed sexism pigs. Typical of a like mind.

dopey

Worse than Hollywood?

SlimJim007

"I'm a German engineer. I vape while I do crossfit. I am also a gluten free atheist that sexually identifies as a transgender school bus." I'm sure that alone just offended like 50 people. People get butthurt at the smallest things now a days. Salt levels are at an all time high

Tim Russell

If you do stupid things to call attention to yourself why should you be immune to criticism? Doesn't that possibility exist when you call attention to yourself?

SlimJim007

People take offence to anything and everything these days like forreal grow up where does it imply rape at all how do you even get that context. Everyones soft these days smh

Deadwood subscriber

Both you and @buggs are conflating rape with rape culture.

But nuance isn't the strong suit of conservatives, so I'm not surprised.

Buggs Raplin

Spoken by a gullible, politically correct, safe spacer.

Buggs Raplin

Yeah, just adding another comment that this term 'cream pie' has nothing to do with rape according to Wikipedia. It's vulgar, of course, but the world is full of vulgarity, and things a whole lot worse. Hey, to those fragile UW-L students offended by just about everything: grow up, deal with it, and try to have a sense of humor, for God's sake.

Tim Russell

You don't seem to have a sense of humor when people claim you are wearing a Tin Foil Hat.

Buggs Raplin

Honestly, I don't care about that. Just don't try to take my guns.

Buggs Raplin

Well, thank God in heaven they didn't include a Confederate flag in the display.

dopey

Buggs..rumor has it that Lynrd Skynrd had a confederate flag at freedom fest. Can you imagine?

Buggs Raplin

Great Ceasar's Ghost!! Really? Hadn't the band HEARD that such a thing is unacceptable in politically correct La Crosse. Sweet home Alabama indeed.

hrpufnstuf

Ban music Dopey? Another communist Trump supporter.

dopey

Ban signs Hrpsnidiot? You don't want to ban hate?

dopey

Harpsinidiot, you don't want to ban the "rape couture"?

tower

ytyk, I agree. It isn't about rape. It is about being a disgusting pig in public. The same with the other disgusting sign hung on State St by some "ladies" asking for the "Navy" men to sail their ship.

you think you know

So where is that front page news story? Notice how the general populace is only offended by males, typically straight and white?

No outrage for local displays of misandry, not surprised.

Tim Russell

Was it actually o the Front Page?

dopey

ytyk... we cannot be sure they are white strait males by the photograph. They might self identify as transgendered African American lesbians, this is 2016 so anything is possible.

tower

You miss state what I said, dope. I don't care for Beyonce either. Before you were talking sex, now we are talking PD and BLM. Which is it?

dopey

Beyonce's perpetuation of the rape culture and her support for hate groups such as BLM should also be dealt with by UWL. Shouldn't be a double standard tower of nonsense.

dopey

Sexist? It's impossible to know even what gender these people identify or what their sexuality is by a photo. Why is it that people always jump to conclusions?

If this is on private property, what business is it of UWL's?

Tim Russell

If they are Students at UWL then UWL definitely would have every right to be involved.

dopey

How do you know they were UW students? Does your employer have a day over what you say at home? (Uw is not even their employer)

lookout

People that age should already know better than to put such things on the front of their house. It's another bunch of men that don't take rape and other lewd act seriously. But if anything like that happened to them personally and people were made fun of them they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs for people to take it down.

lutefisk

many people are into cream pies. male and female. singles and even multiple.those that are peeved about this sign...needn't give into the idea of one or two. try it out. start today

And the Award goes to

Today's winner is Lutefisk for their oblivious post! Congratulations Lutefisk! Let's all give Lutefisk a hand!

random annoying bozo

it just goes to show that in todays America, people get offended way way to easily. and no matter what anyone says or does, it's sure to offend someone,

lighten up, quit being so uptight, it's just words on a banner.

i'm offended that others are offended.

LAX

That's because you really are annoying and a bozo. People and especially our kids don't need to see this kind of garbage displayed in our city! Nitwit!

Climatehoax

The universities want more diversity, this is diversity. It's like art, some people like it others don't. If you don't, don't look. People get bent about this sign, not even on campus, you should be getting bent about how certain races will be affected by the new diversity on campus that gives one race more opportunities than another, based on skin color.

let it go

I thought the City of La Crosse was looking at retaining the kids that go to UWL. Do we really want to retain this quality of people? Also, everyone yells about Ron Johnson and free college and that is what most of you are expressing here by saying weed out. Part of the problem lies with the City of Lacrosse and the campus. They allow kids to run wild without being held accountable for what they do. Think before you act. If you had it to do over again would you?

Pettyfogger

Oh goodness, LET IT GO, if you want to truly understand the quality of students at UW-L, you should first understand that at least some of the criteria of students coming to La Crosse is that is away from their parents by a safe distance and because the college has about a hundred year reputation as a place to party while you earn a degree. If you believe for an instant that little Irma on average is offended that there are guys like the sign painters, go ride the drunk buses any weekend or during Oktoberfest. There is no need to pay for buses to transport Little Irma and her ilk to Vespers as the overwhelming majority will be expressing their carnal urges (like the sign guys) wearing just enough clothes to avoid late evening frost bite but advertising, as females have since clothes were invented, that they are HOT while they practice ancient mating and pairing rituals much like the guys on the deck, just a tiny bit more discreetly. Unless you want to send your kids to some convent on an island, they will do what young of every species do; they will practice to pair and bond. Give it a rest.

lutefisk

at least there were no spelling errors.

HonestAbe

Do the students get a rule book they sign off on?
Do they know what decorum means?
If not, they should be held to higher standards, no matter their parents worth.

Sickens me every year we get a bus load of new slackjaws that are destined to be nothing but partiers and drop-outs ... weed them out before they even move in, please.

You're a guest in this city, act like it ... kids.

Pettyfogger

Decorum. Interesting thought. It is an ugly world out there, Abe. Perhaps the most ugly part is that DECORUM as we know it is a swiftly moving target, defined by anyone who needs to declare themselves insulted or somehow diminished by a word or an expressed thought. What is a joke, even an iffy joke can now instantly be identified as unacceptable with no ability to explain or deny the gravity now applied to it. Think of it, Abe. It is now a felony in New York to misidentify the gender of a person who self-identifies as something other than what a reasonable person would assume. You get a single chance to correct the error of your assumption and at that point, you are a criminal by acclimation.
Weed them out is also a problem as it simply can't be done. In my experience, the absolute worst party goer/street sign stealing/puke on your car jerks are the little Lord Fauntleroys and Lady Guenivieres who show up with Daddy's Range Rover and an expense account, but don't show their true colors until they get a half bottle of single malt Scotch in them. Good luck with that, Abe.

kmjohnson33

Agree with kschulka. It offends much more than just females; terrible title for the article. It offends students, parents, family, family, friends, etc. you name it.

dopey

Coincidentally, most of the rappers are democrats. Their rape culture lyrics should also be banned.

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/03/the-50-grossest-rap-lyrics/

Tim Russell

Actually these guys were trying to imitate some Frat Boys. And everybody knows Frat Boys are Republicans. Thus they are probably Republicans.

Climatehoax

Actually these guys figured Bill Clinton got away with getting a BJ in the White House, and the libs didn't care, so, what's the big deal? Clinton set the president as to what's acceptable. Just about anything according to Bill?

dopey

Hopefully all images and music of Beyonce are banned from campus as well. Her lyrics openly promote the rape culture as well.

http://www.fuse.tv/2013/12/beyonce-new-album-raunchy-sexy-lyrics

tower

Even though these clowns don't know who Sinatra and Dean Martin are, ban them too for sexual content.

dopey

You are probably the first person in history to compare Sinatra with Beyonce. Beyonce's music and image needs to be banned from UWL given her cop hating and racist performances.

kshulka

Sadly, La Crosse Tribune, you got the title to your article wrong again. That banner offended students, faculty, staff, and community members...not just FEMALE students. And although these young men think they are being funny, they had to have known that this kind of offensive, vulgar and potentially hurtful message would be seen that way. Maybe by attending school at UWL and hopefully taking some classes in Women's, Gender and Sexuality courses they might learn a few things, especially as to why this promotes rape culture.

you think you know

Tasteless, yes. Inappropriate, sure. But what about that banner has to do with rape? What about that banner expresses an idea of non consenting college age adults making choices for themselves?

Maybe the women at the University of Texas should take some Male, Gender and Sexuality courses to learn a few things, and that their dild* party, "co**s before gl*cks" promotes a rape culture?

Female vulgarity and inappropriateness is not only accepted, but viewed as some sort of bravery and proud feminist logic. But a handful of 19 year old men make a stupid sign and they're accused of promoting rape?

iComment

What implies this is directed solely to females? Why is it automatically assumed this is sexually related? What if one of these men works for Little Debbie and had an abundance of Oatmeal Cream Pies to share?

tower

Either you are being exceedingly stupid or knowingly apologetic. I am pushing 70 and know full well what the term cream pie means and have for decades. I doubt you can find any person under 30 who doesn't, unless they live in the basement of the mother's house. Now of these clowns work for Little Debbie.

dopey

This banner wouldn't get a second look in such liberal paradises as Paris or Amsterdam. Tower, I thought you were in favor of us becoming more European?

Machiavelli

[alien][alien][alien]Maybe UW-L is really Trump University?

"You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes," Trump told CNN's Don Lemon on Friday night. "Blood coming out of her wherever."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/politics/donald-trump-cnn-megyn-kelly-comment/

you think you know

What exactly on that banner implies anything not censual?

Poor taste, extremely. But I have no idea how this somehow pushes for a culture of rape.

Machiavelli

[alien][alien][alien]ytyK: "But I have no idea how this somehow pushes for a culture of rape."

Worse, it pushes for a culture of Trump, for a culture of boorish fascistic GOP slobs. Anyhow, these frat boys are probably virgins, if one reads between the lines...

"Penny Young Nance, the CEO and president of the conservative group Concerned Women for America, told CNN that Trump's "tantrum was even more enlightening than his original remarks she questioned.""

""Does he have a problem with women?" Nance asked in a statement Saturday morning. "Three wives would suggest that yes, maybe there's a problem. The good news is that Kelly is a mother of toddlers and knows how to deal with petulance and tantrums. Every presidential election since 1964 has been carried by women. Women don't like mean and we certainly won't vote for men or women we don't trust. Trump's biggest woman problem is how does he convince women to trust him to keep America safe?""

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/politics/donald-trump-cnn-megyn-kelly-comment/

you think you know

Are you really putting this stupidity on Trump and a political party?

While I rarely agree with you, at least you used to have some logic posted before your moronic quotes and links. Now you attempt to mix wit and facts, and fail miserably.

tower

I doubt you meant what your wrote in the first sentence and it was a miss use of the word "censual" but what do you think it means?

you think you know

Ha, sorry, consensual! I know exactly what the banner means, it's a vulgar term for a sex act. But what about that sex act or the banner implies that it is not consensual?

I won't play cute and say they were talking about a sugary dessert, but I also don't agree it at all implies forcible sex.

Maybe You're Wrong

Tower, if you're going to lecture people about their "miss use" of a word or as you wrote in a later comment "miss state" what you write, maybe you should focus on your own use of the language, don't you think?

LAX

I bet mommy and daddy are so proud of their little pig boys...

TopCommentor1

It's time to have a PC backlash and start saying the most outlandish and offensive things possible. As a progressive myself, the PC culture is, in my opinion, anything but progressive. It's only purpose is to hide and mask. A true progressive should be open to hearing and seeing everything, plainly and blunt. From there and only there can you start to form your own ideals and opinions.

Machiavelli

[thumbdown][thumbdown][thumbdown]Cries about 'political correctness' are now code for "it's okay to be misogynistic, racist and classist again!"

"According to recent polls, the image of Donald Trump as a bigot has begun to crystallize, and for good reason: Because it’s true!"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/opinion/donald-trumps-bigotry.html

tower

[thumbup][thumbup] Absolutely correct Mach.

easy

tower, except for the comment right below yours about 15 years ago.

I think society has been coarsening for a long time. Civility, and even basic manners, are long gone.

easy

Joke from the sixties:

I'm an open minded liberal, and I'll be one til the day I die.

TopCommentor1

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