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capedcrusader

Anyone know where Czeczok and Climatehoax are? Did they get the boot too?

capedcrusader

Another one for "DMoney". North Korea tested another missile and nothing but crickets from you. What say you this time? You seemed to be solidly in the Trump corner that his little visit made a difference. Do you still feel that way?

capedcrusader

This one is for DMoney:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/world/asia/north-korea-trump-nuclear-talks-deadline.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage

Redwall

Yet another Fibune bench warmer falls short of, well, everything.

After eight paragraphs reciting how hundreds of thousands of Kurds died primarily during the years of Bush the Idiot and Your Lord and Savior Barack...

"Trump facilitated the death of 277."

277

Kinda proves Trump's point, doesnt it.

Bring our men home. We are tired of seeing our flag at half mast.

martian2

well the free loader redwall shows his face again. Bring our men home? No one is coming home as a result of Trump's pull out of syria. They are just being shuffled around the middle east. So who is coming home redwall/freehan? Trumped blessed the slaughter of the Kurds giving Turkey the green light to invade. During Bush and Obama's administration they were allies with us, fighting a common enemy, namely ISIS. That is why we owe them a debt of gratitude. 277 to you is just a number, but the blood from those who were slaughtered will be a stain on Trump's legacy along with many others. Kinda proves a point, the only reason Trump pulled troops from Turkey was to let Putin get involved in the middle east. Something they've wanted for a long time.

oldhomey

I started to write 25 minutes ago that I reported Red once again. It really upsets me that this freeloader continues to show up on these boards. He hates the Tribune, says he hates it, brags he has not paid for it in years, but somehow the Tribune continues to let him open its digital edition and even comment on here while the rest of us saps pay for the privilege of reading it and using these boards. It is insulting to all of us, and I wish the Tribune would block him from getting on here.

johnnybragatti

Like the the "Dee-bag and his new toonude2,cranked-off and the hoaxer, Crazy,Quirer, and Corrupt all need to get on back to their opioids and leave all the straight folks alone On the way pick up little tiny rikki,zerb/kok and see if you can do something for him?

DMoney

You're still here? For a moment there, I forgot you existed...

capedcrusader

That's how I feel about crankypants! He like several others seem to only show up when they want to spin wheels about something for weeks on end. You know like "A Veteran" and Czeczok.

Jobaba

Sometimes it hurts to see the truth so clearly put forth. Sometimes a snake goes spitting and fuming back into his hole to hide his face because even he knows the truth. And he knows now that others know the truth. Very nice column.

martian2

so who here wants to bet that Trump will testify in person under oath to the impeachment investigation committee? The big coward won't even let his own people testify, why would he? If anyone wants I would be willing to wager two weeks of no commenting on these boards to anyone who believes Trump will testify in person. Mr Bone spurs I believe is the biggest coward walking this earth. Any takers? He says he is seriously contemplating taking Nancy up on her offer. I would give anyone who wants to bet 2 to 1 odds. If he testifies in person I will stay away for four weeks, if he doesn't testify in person you stay away for only two weeks. How about it, any takers???

DMoney

No idea. Don't really care, just want it to conclude one way or another.

DMoney

I read the column, and the facts remain, since 2016:

No lost allies

No new wars

No new enemies

No broken alliances

Until an actual, meaningful change occurs, it's alllllllll talk. Endless babble.

martian2

no lost allies? What have you been smoking D? Tell that to the Kurds who got slaughtered thanks to Trump and his half brain pull out in Syria. No broken alliances, again what have you been smoking?

DMoney

We've lost the Kurds as allies? Really? Huh. How easy and quickly they forget the protection we gave them from Saddam all those years. How easy and quickly they forget our invaluable assistance in combating various terrorist organizations alongside them. American boys, dying on Arab land. But then again, I don't think they actually broke their alliance with us. The Kurds don't have many friends. And we're the most powerful country on Earth. It will take more than our withdrawal to break their need of us.

martian2

What? Who said the Kurds have forgot anything? Where on earth do you come up with this stuff. Yes we lost the Kurds as allies, we are the ones who pulled out and let them be slaughtered. I don't think they will forget that. You like to justify the cruelty from this president, thinking it makes us stronger." Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or soften the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough." A quote from FDR, and one you would be wise to remember.

oldhomey

Does that upset you, D, that the U.S. extends a sympathetic hand to 40 million people who only want the right to exist, but have few friends in the world? Does it offend you that, in extending our sympathetic hand, we also asked them to man the front lines of Middle Eastern wars in which we have deep strategic concerns? Strut your geopolitical stuff here and explain to me why this offends and/or upsets you?

DMoney

It doesn't offend me. I'm fine with helping those that help us. But not forever, and not unconditionally. We've been helping them for over 27 years. They've helped us against terrorists and Iraq (the 2nd time). ISIS, in an organized from, is gone. Yes, there will rise a new terrorist group. And then maybe they can help us again. There is zero strategic value in Northeast Syria. The Kurds currently have nothing to help us with. Alas, there is no reason to stay. Bring the troops home or redeploy them to a more important zone.

oldhomey

I see, D. An ally like the Kurds helps us for 20 years, but our support and gratitude lasts just as long as it takes the Turkish president to phone a back-stabbing, no account, uninformed fabulist American president, and then all bets are off.

capedcrusader

After the last episode of Frontline watching the Russians and Assad murdering all those innocent people and using chemical weapons they need to go. We should get every one of those murderers and not turn a blind eye to their despicable deeds. They are terrorists of the worst kind and that war should never end no matter the cost.

martian2

no new wars?? what do you call what Turkey did in Syria to the Kurds? No new enemies, I think we have a new one for years to come.

DMoney

The US has initiated no new wars. The Kurds remain our allies, albeit butthurt ones.

martian2

oops now you moved the end line D, rearranged the argument to suit your points. Too late, they already have been debunked.

oldhomey

exactly, martian.

oldhomey

Here is a quick example from another string still up on these boards of how D has been regarding the Kurds up until this startling shift in tone:

"DMoney Nov 14, 2019 10:33pm

"You are dead wrong or blindly lying when you say the Kurds are our allies. They aren't. They never have been. They are not a nation. Turkey is our ally. Formally, historically, economically, militarily. Either smarten up or quit being deceitful."

And by the way, this response from D is one in which he is defending Trump's decision to pull U.S. troops out of Kurdish territory in Syria just before he gave the go-ahead to Turkey to go ahead and go into Syria and slaughter the Kurds. Of course D has utter contempt for Trump's personal style, but he has high regard for Trump's matchless wisdom in international affairs, dumping on all of our traditional allies, even stabbing some of them in the back, like the Kurds. But no, he has never praised Trump?

DMoney

The US has initiated no new wars involving our troops or money. That's a fact.

DMoney

How does that indicate praise of Trump??

oldhomey

Are we to assume that your trumpeting that there have been no new wars involving our troops or money is not intended to be praise of Trump? I and, I think, a huge part of the US electorate are not impressed, because we see that his unilateral attack on our oldest, most trusted allies, his schmoozing and admiration of our most lethal enemies, and his reckless, mindless, misguided forays into North Korean and Iranian policy are setting us up for far worse armed conflicts. But you praise him.

DMoney

I wouldn't consider it "praise" for acknowledging that someone has done their job. I would expect a US president to avoid unnecessary wars and Trump has done that far better than Bush, Clinton, Bush or Obama. Regarding policy towards NK and Iran--were on completely opposite pages and it's a waste of time to discuss it. I feel literally opposite of you on those subjects and I am convicted in my beliefs. You can call them "wrong". I'll call yours "wrong". Boring.

oldhomey

I think you would be hard-pressed to show us how Trump has been doing his job.

oldhomey

Thank you Mr. Malzer. You have stated what happen to also be my sentiments. Exactly.

oldhomey

I have been reading too much new2, and I am adopting his syntax subconsciously, apparently. Let me amend this: Thank you Mr. Malzer. What you have stated happens also to be my sentiments. Exactly.

DMoney

You criticized Trump for going too easy on NK while simultaneously criticized him for being too tough on Iran. You criticize him for not supporting our "alliance" with an ethnic group, while at the same time criticizing him for upholding our alliance with a NATO member (Turkey) while at the same time criticizing him for not being supportive enough of NATO. The hypocrisy is endless and exhausting.

martian2

You must be listening to your two sources on you tube there D. Our NATO alliance involves a lot more countries than just Turkey. And other members are appalled by what Turkey did. Just because they are a member or NATO does not give them card blanch to murder innocent people. Adults know that human rights and justice are important and that is why NATO was formed in the first place. Coddling murderous dictators is not part of the pact D. You should know that. Now Iran is enriching more uranium because of Trump broke the treaty with them. Talk about hypocrisy, trump's hate of peaceful democracies while embracing dictatorships takes the cake. Why isn't he supporting the pro democracy protests in Hong Kong? We as a country used to care about such things.

DMoney

Did they "murder" them or did they fight them, as they've been doing for years? The Kurds and Turkey have constantly fought over that territory. How is it our responsibility to interfere? And, by the way, what did you have in mind? Send in the infantry and battle it out? Think.

martian2

yes D they murdered them. War crimes were committed, atrocities were committed by Turkey with the blessing of Trump. That is reality and truth no matter what your two sources on social media say.

oldhomey

Do you think he gave the go ahead to Erdogan and Turkey to invade Syria and murder Kurds because Turkey is a member of NATO, D? How do you think what Turkey did advances any of the causes of NATO? And if Trump indeed gave Turkey the go ahead to invade Syria because it is a NATO ally, why does Trump publicly talk constantly about the worthlessness of NATO and his inclination to withdraw the US from the NATO alliance? Does it exhaust you to do that fairly basic amount of thinking? You, the self-proclaimed most knowledgeable person on these boards when it comes to geopolitical issues? North Korea is doing nothing to abide by its promises to Trump to rein in its nuclear weapons research. It continues to test missiles, including missiles in submarines. Trump says and does nothing about it. Iran was abiding by all aspects of its agreement to stop nuclear weapons research. Trump ruined that by pulling out of the agreement that forced Iran into that stance, so now Iran has resumed research. Is that too difficult for you to sort out in that busy little mind of yours? Or should I just shut up, because you clearly know what is what, who is who and the whys and wherefores of all things?

martian2

it does no good to respond to D. Like a child he keeps making the same old talking points, even though they were debunked long ago. His propensity to get his news from social media is the reason he is so poorly informed and unable to think beyond talking points. Much the same can be said for the rest of the right wing gang here. Crank and hoaxer and the rest are all cut from the same cloth, namely ignorance and fanatical loyalty to one party.

DMoney

First, start with correct facts. NK is abiding by their end of the bargain. The rules were no Nike tests and no BALLISTIC missile tests. They've done neither. That's a fact and it's irrefutable. Second, you, nor anyone has the first clue about whether Iran was meeting their end of that terrible deal. That's the whole point and reason we got out. It was identical to Chamberlain's "peace in our time". A political stunt of sweeping under the rug by Obama and the left leaning European governments. There was no system for inspecting Iran's nuclear status. Third, Turkey isn't murdering anyone, they are fighting the same battle they've been fighting against Kurds for thousands of years off and on. Fourth, Trump threatened massive sanctions on Turkey and then brought their leader in for talks. What would you have him do? Bomb the hell out of them? You are out of your depth here. You can start by learning some facts and applying some reason and logic. It's clear that Trump can do no right for you. Which isn't natural and shows ignorance.

DMoney

*nuke

crank

This again? What's your game, you tricky little devil? As I stated recently, you seem to be a "one trick" tricky little devil, this time asking if I'm Hey19 instead of asking if I'm Buggs. [yawn] #troll If you're being honest, questioning others seems a bit hypocritical given your own obession with replaying this 'game' again.

I don't expect you'll be satisfied simply going back to re-read the answers already provided. You seem intent on playing your "game" again but too bad. At the risk of causing oldhomey to hyperventilate, here you go. Spin your own wheels and review. I expect you'll simply come back in a month or so and try asking me again if I am {fill in a screen name here}, you tricky little devil. https://lacrossetribune.com/opinion/columnists/rich-lowry-the-climate-trap-for-democrats/article_a0767aa2-dda0-5806-9cfb-cdb393de0850.html?mode=comments

As for your latest line of inquiry about oldhomey. His own words should certainly suffice.

oldhomey Oct 16, 2019 5:28pm

Well, I NEVER! Martian, how DARE you let the cat out of the bag that we meet at John's bar on Wednesday"s. I have been SO scrupulous in keeping that information out of the hands of the likes of crank, new2 and other blowhard right-wingers! Shame!

Now we will have to be extra careful about people on my enemies list coming in with hidden cameras. I am quite proud of wearing queen's garb at these meetings, as I think I am devastatingly beautiful in full regalia, despite my noticeable girth and facial hair, but I am not sure the general public would understand. We in our group are all committed communists determined to disarm all citizens to keep the guns for ourselves, but until we can achieve that, we should refrain from talking about it except amongst ourselves. Does anybody know what crank looks like? He sounds like he is a gym rat hunk. I would love to smother him in kisses.

If you're honest, you'll undoubtedly agree that "Czeczok" and "A Veteran" have not expressed anything nearly as strange or shown as much personal interest in anyone here as you and oldhomey have in your apparent obsession with me. If you have further questions about oldhomey's gender and related fantasies, you should direct those questions to oldhomey.

crank

This inconsistency and hypocrisy is standard for trib-libs. If a Demoncrat president had done precisely the same thing, they’d praise Home for pulling back in Syria and taking our troops out of harm’s way. They constantly contradict themselves and squeal their denials when you point it out.

oldhomey

Perhaps you would like to point out the inconsistency, crank? C' mon, it is safe for you to come out from behind D's protective skirt and express your own opinion.

crank

I and DMoney point out your inconsistency as a matter of routine. One example is your recent criticism of me using generalization about Demoncrats in response to a post you made under your puppet account using precisely the same sort of generalizations about Republicans.

I'm not sure what sort of dreams you're having about DMoney to lead you to attempt to shame him for wearing skirts but, as far as I know, the only regular participant in these comments who practices cross-dressing is you (by your own admission) dressing up in a queen's regalia and having the attendees of some sort of weekly cult meeting held in the back room of some bar refer to you as, YYour Highness... [huh]

As a liberal Demoncrat, sensitivity to non-binary gender identification is a main plank of the Democrat platform but you seem to engage the use of micro-aggression towards DMoney and are a hypocrite for using that plank as a weapon. Your liberal friends would be quick to criticize a conservative for such micro-aggressions against the LGBTQIA-XYZ community but, due to the inconsistency and hypocrisy of liberals, none of those liberals have stepped up to call you out for this.

martian2

well crank again makes a fool of himself by saying Homey and I are the same person. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Something you know little about there crank head. One who continually lies is continually dismissed. No one listens to a repeated liar. LIke the boy who cried wolf, you and your whining crank has hit a dead end. You and D try to spin and twist everything done by Trump as heroic and good for this country. Not one word of criticism of Trump ever comes from you two. It just shows the brain washing effect that hate radio and right wing propaganda sites have on you. And it shows your shallowness and inability to think for yourselves. Your loyalty to Trump is not something to be proud of, even though you will never realize that. And here comes one of those emoticons you so enjoy using. [thumbdown][sleeping]

crank

Listen to you squeal, puppet! It is funny how you pivot back and forth between accounts and continue this charade.

Now...Perhaps you can back up your claim that I “...spin and twist everything done by Trump as heroic and good for this country.” I do not speak for DMoney but let me be clear that I do not and have not taken up the position you continually claim I, oldhomey (martian), am defending Trump. I am a conservative and disagree fundamentally with your liberal ideology. I rarely speak about Trump directly and certainly have not claimed him to be a hero. I do, however, agree with his conservative policies on a number of policy matters as a conservative. If anything, I have stated that I am not a fan. But this is just another example of the generalizations you make which are simply not true. This is the latest such example of false generalizations you’ve made in recent days. Cue the account switch where you log off then log in as oldhomey (her highness) with more denials.

DMoney

I would challenge anyone to find an example of me praising Trump. I'll go away for 3 months if so.

oldhomey

Wow, crank, you sure know how to stick to the facts and prove your point by means of reason and truth. I should know better to mix it up with an intellect like yours. You really pulled out the stops here and showed me to be both inconsistent and a raving hypocrite. I will never be able to show my face again. That is good news, by the way, for the rest of the world, not having to gaze upon my mug.

oldhomey

Like so many conservatives, D and crank love to pretend that they personally have problems with Trump's style, but they rush in to defend everything -- and I mean everything. His corruption is not his blowhard, iodiotic style and hair trigger temper, his corruption is his very essence. And if you support the subatance of Trump as president, you support the man. Period, full stop.

martian2

What? you got to be kidding D. Your 3:10 post is praising Trump for no new wars and on and on. You constantly praise him for looking into Ukrainian corruption with no political motives what so ever. And that is just the tip of the ice berg. I won't hold you to your statement of going away. This was just too easy. As far as crank head goes, he is so paranoid that I am more than one person, he must have night mares. He is another one bent solely on one party and one political philosophy he doesn't know the difference on what reality and fantasy are. When you think the opposition is coming out of the wood work with different screen names its time to pause and question everything about you, for that cannot be healthy. Wisdom is not about sticking to your beliefs especially after they have been proven wrong. And repeating lies over and over doesn't make them true. Something crank head will never understand.

crank

Another example of inconsistency and hypocrisy... The martian puppet writes, "When you think the opposition is coming out of the wood work with different screen names its time to pause and question everything about you, for that cannot be healthy. "

And all those times you (oldhomey) accuse others of using multiple screen names, then??? [huh] Trying so hard to open that door that you ended up smacking it into your own face.

BTW: I've never believed you are more than one person, martian/oldhomey. You're so hell-bent on trolling that you've become confused. I believe you're one person trying to seem like more by using multiple accounts to troll anyone who disagrees with you. #enemieslist

crank

Quoting oldhomey, "Like so many conservatives, D and crank love to pretend that they personally have problems with Trump's style, but they rush in to defend everything -- and I mean everything."

As I stated, "But this is just another example of the generalizations you make which are simply not true." I have addressed this within this very thread by saying I am a conservative by not necessarily a Trump fan. Even though I haven't made such statements, you continue to claim I have.

If we do "rush in to defend everything -- and I mean everything.", it would be no trouble for you to locate actual instances of this rather than making it up. DMoney has invited you to find an example of him praising Trump. He said he'll go away for 3 months if you do. Seems you could not find anything so you've returned simply stayed with making things up...pretending. How consistently inconsistent of you, oldhomey...the liberal Democrat's way of life!

oldhomey

Well, crank, you have only appeared very sporadically in the last couple of months, so of course it is difficult for me to recover posts you have made to defend your favorite president, as they have timed out. But, since you insist, in the future, I will be happy to call it to your attention and the attention of others when you, while abhorring Trump's personal style, defend his performance in the White House. And, of course, I will be happy to attach to those comments your own examples of your own lack of scruples, principles and ethics in general that complement Trump's behavior so well.

martian2

we get it crank, you made a fool of yourself enough. You think homey has more than one screen name, no evidence or proof but that doesn't matter. Just accusations matter to you and if you repeat them enough you think they become true. I get a good laugh out of your stupidity. And your comments on politics and world events are a source for humor too. Credibility is one thing you will never have or obtain.

crank

Timed out??? You mean cop out, don't you? C'mon, dumb dumb, if DMoney and I actually defend/praise Trump as routinely as you claim, you should have no trouble finding some comment to keep DMoney off this site for three months. The comments here are easy to search and go back years and years. You should be able to find something. No? Why not, then, simply admit this oft-repeated claim you make is false so we can move on?

This may bring back memories of your record of hypocrisy and inconsistency, oldhomey. To prove the comments do not "Time out", this only took a moment to find. Remember when you blamed Leeann Tweeden for being groped by Al Franken? #hypocrisy #doublestandards #inconsistency #blamethewoman

https://lacrossetribune.com/opinion/columnists/cass-r-sunstein-prosecuting-rivals-is-bad-policy/article_4390d8c2-99c5-5834-838c-c9ff4df25fc3.html?mode=comments

After seeing these comments, there's no doubt you'll try to pivot to something about me being Hey19 as you did recently or express fear that you'll be tracked if you click the link:

oldhomey Nov 9, 2019 10:27pm

Get out the violins and hankies. Hey 19 is back here. I wonder if he was crank all along.

Of course you'll tag-in your puppet account which you used to suggest accusations indicate paranoia or a [mental] health issue. The martian2 puppet wrote just yesterday in this thread, "When you think the opposition is coming out of the wood work with different screen names its time to pause and question everything about you, for that cannot be healthy. " Consistently inconsistent... Which is it 'fellas'? [whistling] Perhaps you and the imaginary friend can discuss it at your next meeting?

oldhomey

Well, this is indeed precious! crank is going to prove my inconsistent and hypocritic ways by telling me: "This may bring back memories of your record of hypocrisy and inconsistency, oldhomey. To prove the comments do not "Time out", this only took a moment to find. Remember when you blamed Leeann Tweeden for being groped by Al Franken? #hypocrisy #doublestandards #inconsistency #blamethewoman".

Well, gosh, crank, I surely do not remember that incident in which I blamed Leeann Tweeden for being groped by Al Franken. In fact, I haven't the foggiest idea who Leeann Tweeden is. Should I? Could you cite the instance in which I did this? Or did that alleged post by me age out so that it is no longer viewable? And, crank, if you have such a post by me, please don't post it here as a link, as I would never access again in my life any link that you offer, as you say you use software to trace the identities of people who access your proffered links. You can just cut and paste it for me. Go ahead, big fella, the ball is in your court.

crank

I've provided it for you. Here you claim again not to remember and suggested this old post by you was somehow inaccessible because it "aged out". It's a stupid excuse because they don't "time out". The source/article is right there for you but I fully expected this convenient sort of refusal/denial. Don't be so feeble, oldhomey! Copy and paste it yourself, dumb dumb.

oldhomey

You have provided it, crank? Where the hell is it? Put up or shut up, big fella.

DMoney

Semi-rhetorical question: are the people who defended the Nazi's at Nuremberg thereby supporters of the Nazi's? Should every defense attorney be thrown in jail with their clients if found guilty? There's a big difference between defend and support.

capedcrusader

DMoney - If you don't consider this praise of Trump then what or who were you referring to when you made this comment? It sure sounds and looks like you were praising Trump...

DMoney Nov 18, 2019 3:10pm

I read the column, and the facts remain, since 2016:

No lost allies

No new wars

No new enemies

No broken alliances

Until an actual, meaningful change occurs, it's alllllllll talk. Endless babble.

crank

DMoney, perhaps you can confirm whether or not a link to a years-old Tribune article is visible to you but somehow invisible to oldhomey? Oldhomey seems to be having trouble using his computer and, therefore, cannot take you up on your challenge.

oldhomey

So, crank, I see you are insisting that I access the link you have offered. I will remind you in your own words why you offer "links" in your posts. You say you use software to track anybody who accesses those links so that you can identify their real identities, their computer i.p. and their computer accounts. I told you I would never respond to one of those links ever again, and I would urge anybody on these boards to avoid those links offered by you, because you have absolutely no ethical standards. If you want me to see the "evidence" against me that you say is in this link, I suggest you cut and paste it here so that I can see it. I will not go into that link. Here, in your own words, is why:

"crank Apr 30, 2019 11:10am

"Yes, homey... when you and your sock puppet visited my web links, I determined they were the same computer based on IP address, browser info, cookies, etc. I’m not sure why you feel the need to do this but your continued denials combined with accusations that others are using fake accounts is quite pathetic . . . "

You made later boasts about doing these very things you now say you are incapable of doing, i.e.:

"crank May 12, 2019 6:22am "Because putting up those details, oldhomey, is something I said I would not do. I will not post your IP address or your location or your name or any other details. Though you call my claims 'menacing', I don’t see how anyone but you could believe that is true given the fact I said I had not and will not make additional attempts to determine your real identity nor would I Dox you . . . "

Make up your mind, crank. Either you say can do these things or admit you can't and apologize for suggesting in the past that you were doing these things.

Now cut and paste your supposed evidence. Put up or shut up, big fella.

crank

Ah! The oldhomey pivot! I knew it would come. This is your way to avoid being called out on your nonsense. Change the subject... But let's clear somethings up, dumb dumb.

1) Were you lying about not being able to see the link I provided to the years-old Tribune article which you insist "time out" and will not permit you to retrieve them to back up your claim? Pretty weak, little fella...

Note: You know, you don't have to click the link. You can copy just the text and paste it or type it yourself. Instead, you stuck your head in the sand, tucked you tail between your legs and claimed you couldn't see it? #patheticcoward Now that you can see that link (apparently), perhaps you'll revisit the stupid, inconsistent and hypocritical statements you made in that article before you disappeared (into the weeds) so many years ago.

2) Are you avoiding DMoney's challenge to back up your statements?

3) Do you really believe I have control of the Tribune's and other web sites on the internet or are your whiny protests just another cop out and a way to avoid owning your stupid comments? C'mon...You don't remember Leeann Tweeden and Al Franken? Pretty weak...

Don't bother answering. Maybe, just this once, you'll admit your mistakes/lies as you claim you always do when you're wrong. [innocent] Nah... We've seen you do this too many times to expect anything different, little fella. Just change the subject.

DMoney

Caped-- those are expectations met. Not praise. Praise would be me saying the Packers have done an amazing job this year, far beyond expectations. The new coach is the next Lombardi. Etc etc. If the Packers were merely 5-5 I would just defens them and tell people to give it time, at least we don't have losing record, etc.

DMoney

I can confirm, the link you provided worked. It brought me to a comment chain from 2017.

DMoney

Regarding security/tracking concerns--Im not worried about it. If anyone were to locate my name/address, I have nothing to hide and I stand by everything I say/do/believe/am. I won't voluntary publish my personal details, as I'm not eager to provide that info but I'm also not worried about it. In regards to my personal safety and that of my family--I'm confident in it, we'll put it that way.

oldhomey

crank, you are the one who says you have something that I said that proves your allegation. All you have to do is cut and paste it here. Is that so difficult? I suspect you are going through this silly exercise with some other end in mind. So if you have, provide it yourself. I will not chase after it. Put up or shut up, big fella. And, while you are at it, try to deny what I have cut and paste of your own words about what you say you do when you provide links in your posts. Whether you do or don't, your admission that you say you do it writes your epithet as a loser with no scruples or ethics in bold, capital letters.

oldhomey

Well, D, I think you would be safe if crank for some reason revealed your actual identity. I am not sure why you would be okay with him digging into your computer accounts and his snooping into your financial business, as he claims he has "stumbled" upon with others. But most of the people you joust with on these boards -- liberals -- are basically pretty civil and sane in their behavior. But, as even crank has admitted in the past, giving people like Ricky, new2, Climate, A Veteran (of no known military unit), bozo et al would be foolhardy, indeed, because these people show day in and day out that they do not know the boundaries of behavior. For that matter, crank has shown he does not respect boundaries, himself. But I think you would be safe in letting your opposition on these boards know your actual identity. They are scared to death of that Glock with the 17-round ammo clip, I am sure. Just terrified of it.

crank

And oldhomey has, at this point, pivoted away from the topic and fled. These latest posts are nothing more a defense mechanism, like a slimy squid squirting ink into the water to cover his retreat. The oldhomey pivot...

When asked to back up his statement (quoting oldhomey from above) "Like so many conservatives, D and crank love to pretend that they personally have problems with Trump's style, but they rush in to defend everything -- and I mean everything." he failed. Instead of owning his mis-statements and lies (which he assures us he ALWAYS does) he attempts misdirection either with this sort of nonsense or he logs in with his puppet account. (which he already tried...) [yawn]

Since you're out of tricks, oldhomey, will you retract your lie?

oldhomey

Pivot, crank? That is your specialty. I will make a point against you, and you will ignore it by jumping on some other of your imagined hurts that I have inflicted on you. I don't have to argue about the support that you and D continually heap on Trump. You righteously tell us that you think he is a reckless oaf, but you agree with all of his policies and jump on here to defend them or attack those who disagree with his policies. That is on the record day in and day out. As for pivoting, this is the the discussion on the front burner right now, your post that is earlier in this same string:

Timed out??? You mean cop out, don't you? C'mon, dumb dumb, if DMoney and I actually defend/praise Trump as routinely as you claim, you should have no trouble finding some comment to keep DMoney off this site for three months. The comments here are easy to search and go back years and years. You should be able to find something. No? Why not, then, simply admit this oft-repeated claim you make is false so we can move on?

This may bring back memories of your record of hypocrisy and inconsistency, oldhomey. To prove the comments do not "Time out", this only took a moment to find. Remember when you blamed Leeann Tweeden for being groped by Al Franken? #hypocrisy #doublestandards #inconsistency #blamethewoman

https://lacrossetribune.com/opinion/columnists/cass-r-sunstein-prosecuting-rivals-is-bad-policy/article_4390d8c2-99c5-5834-838c-c9ff4df25fc3.html?mode=comments

After seeing these comments, there's no doubt you'll try to pivot to something about me being Hey19 as you did recently or express fear that you'll be tracked if you click the link:

oldhomey Nov 9, 2019 10:27pm

Get out the violins and hankies. Hey 19 is back here. I wonder if he was crank all along.

Of course you'll tag-in your puppet account which you used to suggest accusations indicate paranoia or a [mental] health issue. The martian2 puppet wrote just yesterday in this thread, "When you think the opposition is coming out of the wood work with different screen names its time to pause and question everything about you, for that cannot be healthy. " Consistently inconsistent... Which is it 'fellas'? Perhaps you and the imaginary friend can discuss it at your next meeting?

Tell us more about this incident with Ms. Tweedie and Franken, and my defense of Franken. Lay it all out for us. Put up or shut up on that specifically.

crank

You first! C’mon fussy, if DMoney and I praise and defend Donald Trump every single day, it should be no trouble for you to back it up. C’mon, little fella, if it’s every day... No? You out of wind, old windy?

oldhomey

crank, the noise you are making this late in the discussion is like that of the guy passing gas in a church meeting. You can pretend it didn't come from you, but the odor will send everybody around you scurrying.

crank

Oh, c’mon windy! Don’t give up! F@rt references? If you cannot find anything to back up your statements that DMoney and I praise and defend Donald Trump each and every day, just admit it. Put up or shut up, old troll. I know if you had something on DMoney, you’d be crowing about it and demanding he stay off this site for 3 months. This is it? Pitiful!

It isn’t anyone’s flatulence making you scurry off except your own!

martian2

well why don't we just get out the old dictionary and see what the word "praise" really means. Crank head and D are having deciphering its many meanings. So here we go, and what do I find. " to commend, to express approval, give kudos, laud or give thanks." Now try to say with a straight face you guys never praise Trump. You both do it on a frequent basis there certainly no denying that. Well you can deny it, but you make another fool of yourself. Maybe you should look up the word "fool."

crank

Oh, looky! Oldhomey has fled and logged in with his puppet account to continue! ...as if to make it seem like it’s two separate people!

capedcrusader

DMoney - "expectations met"? This doesn't sound like praise to you? Really?

DMoney Nov 18, 2019 3:10pm

I read the column, and the facts remain, since 2016:

No lost allies

No new wars

No new enemies

No broken alliances

Until an actual, meaningful change occurs, it's alllllllll talk. Endless babble.

oldhomey

I guess crank is so invested in trying to duck his totally inappropriate actions and behavior on these boards that he thinks I am breathlessly awaiting his latest post, like he seems to await mine. No, I have not run away, crank. I just quit looking at the boards about this time last night, and I am just coming back to them now. I am not trying to hide from you, nor do I want to hide from you, because you are a piece of low hanging fruit when it comes to being vulnerable in your opinions. And that is what we have these forums for, to debate opinions. You, however, are apparently so lacking in confidence that you resort to totally unethical behavior to try to intimidate those with whom you disagree.

capedcrusader

So crank, after reading these posts over again... Do you admit that you were not using the name Hey19? Also, I noticed DMoney explained very well why he doesn't like to share his personal information. Don't you find it the least bit strange that "Czeczok"

and "A Veteran" continue to post about wanting other posters personal information? (only people they disagree with of course, not you or DMoney or Climatehoax or Redwall). I'm with DMoney on that issue are you? You say you would never "reveal" personal information but claim to know that someone on here is "Dennis" and now you apparently feel oldhomey is a female. (you did call oldhomey her highness right?). You also feel oldhomey is martian. Can you prove any of your claims or are you just having fun playing games that you aren't going to win like when you spun wheels with me for two weeks? Can you answer these questions truthfully?

crank

Sadly, this thread of comments has gotten so long that my reply to you won't appear in the correct place. I don't want you to accuse me of not answering your questions (again). Please do have a look for my reply from today and forgive me for not copying and pasting the entire comment here again. I would expect you to make the same or similar inquiries of oldhomey about his reasons for his obsession with my fitness, my appearance and reasons for accusing me (again) of being another user, this time Hey19.

Nevermind, I don't really expect you to do anything of the sort. I've seen you in action, capedcrusader.

capedcrusader

Believe me when I say we've seen you in action too. So, your answer is to not answer my questions. I guess by not being honest and answering my questions you in essence did...

crank

Actually, I did answer. As I explained, it appears elsewhere in this thread but appeared in the wrong place. Perhaps you’ve seen it and are being obtuse. Perhaps not so here’s the time stamp: Nov 27, 2019 1:31pm

Asked and answered...

capedcrusader

Nope. You still didn't answer the questions I asked of you. Not one. You lied again. So try again and this time be honest. Here, I'll make it easy for you:

So crank, after reading these posts over again... Do you admit that you were not using the name Hey19? Also, I noticed DMoney explained very well why he doesn't like to share his personal information. Don't you find it the least bit strange that "Czeczok"and "A Veteran" continue to post about wanting other posters personal information? (only people they disagree with of course, not you or DMoney or Climatehoax or Redwall). I'm with DMoney on that issue are you? You say you would never "reveal" personal information but claim to know that someone on here is "Dennis" and now you apparently feel oldhomey is a female. (you did call oldhomey her highness right?). You also feel oldhomey is martian. Can you prove any of your claims or are you just having fun playing games that you aren't going to win like when you spun wheels with me for two weeks? Can you answer these questions truthfully?

martian2

First off let me start by mentioning again the tribune print edition as another excellent column in the sunday paper written by Mr. Gerson. Yet again he does not appear here on the e-edition opinion page. What gives Mr. Tribune?

Now back to this column. What Trump did in Syria is unforgivable and is another stain on our nation foreign policy. The Kurds deserved our support and our help to avoid the slaughter by Turkey. Just because Turkey is part of NATO does not give them the right to slaughter innocent people. There are now rumblings in NATO about removing Turkey from the alliance. Russia too has benefited from Trump's stupid move and is propping up another murderous dictator in Syria. That seems to be the common thread in Trump and Putin's foreign policies. It used to be we supported democracies around the world but now it seems they are on a hit list instead. The moral barometer for this country has slid solidly into the evil side and will stay there until amoral Trump is gone.

Rick Czeczok

Blah, blah, blah, like anyone listens to anything a socialist activist says anymore. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA just for you buddy boy....

oldhomey

More trenchant analysis and beautifully conceived, elegantly stated observation from Ricky Boy. This is just for you, my man: hee hee.

capedcrusader

Grow up troll. I don't believe you taught anywhere. Can you prove it?

DMoney

We aren't the eternal protectors if the Kurds. Not our responsibility. Russia gains more influence in Syria--who cares? Let them annex the place. It's a cesspool of violence, destruction and terrorism. I am upset that we left any troops there to guard anything. Why wouwe risk American lives for such a place? It holds no strategic importance in the protection or advancement in our national interests.

martian2

wow that is the best you can really say there D? So childish and immature its hard to know where to start. Give Russia the whole place! You definitely watch way to much social media. Your lack or morality is astounding but not surprising given your very limited exposure to current events.

DMoney

We should be there for MORAL reasons, eh? Oh, then shouldn't we be in half of Africa too? Mexico? Venezuela? Hong Kong? We should have troops on about 75% of the landmass of the earth, by your logic. Keep going with those insults. They are truly hurting my feelings and compelling me to change my stance.....

martian2

Well D, I would rather have our troops and influence on 75% of the places on earth instead of giving it away to the Russians. That is why we have treaties and alliances, to share the responsibility to keep the peace and stop wars and genocide. There is no justification for letting Turkey slaughter the Kurds, none. So give it up you are on the wrong side of history as usual.

DMoney

You mean, like "treaties and alliances" we have with Turkey, through NATO??

Where are the Brits, the French, Spain, Germany in Syria protecting the Kurds? They could certainly fill that void? Oh that's right--they can't even come up with their part of the budget to defend their OWN countries! And then Trump is supposed to be very nice and polite and bend to their wishes and bow to them, a la Obama. You are correct, I just don't get it...

capedcrusader

Why in "such a place"? So that others can live in peace?

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